You can be a second rate businessman and end up a millionaire.
You can be a third rate politician and end up as President.
You can be the greatest musician who ever lived and end up dead in the gutter.
Carl Hiaasen
Aaarrrr, looks like I’ll setup something for music too and dump Spotify. Once that’s done, I’ll happily make monthly payments to some service (or charity?) that sends money directly to artists
I just use Spotify with a hacked API. I like costing them money.
Awesome!
How… Teach us
If you’re on android search for xManager. It can install… special APKs that are more pleasant for us cheapskate to use.
Teach us, master!
If you’re on android search for xManager. It can install… special APKs that are more pleasant for us cheapskate to use.
Teach me the ways
If you’re on android search for xManager. It can install… special APKs that are more pleasant for us cheapskate to use.
Oligarch through and through.
Of all the people to be angry at for being wealthy…
Guy grew up in one of the most downtrodden areas of Sweden, single parent household and founded the single largest music service in the world.
Yeah, that deserves more pay than any one musician ever is worth.
Oh, and he pays taxes, in Sweden. Our taxes are insane.
Sure, it’s debatable whether any one person should be that rich. Sure, he could probably do more for the artists. Sure, there’s probably other stuff he messes up too.
However, the main problem is likely the record labels who own the majority of the shares after essentially forcing the founders to give up the company they built. Especially considering that he worked at µTorrent before going off to do Spotify, and was inspired by napster - the idea that music should be free and available to everyone.
Honestly, I’m kinda sick of the artists payouts argument. The music industry is incredibly saturated. Like more saturated than anything else we consume daily by far. Having a few million streams sounds really impressive until you realize that the top 1,000 streamed artists all have more than 2 billion streams, and you’ve probably only even heard of a quarter of them. Some generic singer songwriter dude I went to high school with has a couple million streams, but in the broad scope he’s absolutely nobody compared to the big dogs.
It’s a competitive field. Physical albums can still sell to collectors, but not like they used to. So if you want to make a living as a band, you have to get creative and find other ways to profit. My personal favorite band realized touring is where they get paid the most, so they do well over 100 gigs a year, all over the world, and they’ve been doing it for 30 years.
The biggest reason I use Spotify personally is for music discovery. I’ve discovered countless bands because their algorithm is great and knows what I like. The amount of money I’ve spent on concert tickets, t-shirts, beers at venues etc all because I heard your song a couple times thanks to an algorithm is lost on folks making the streaming payout argument. If your music is good, it will get me to come see you live. If your live show is good, I’ll come back and bring a friend.
Recorded music in my opinion should be an entry point, your argument for why I should come see you instead of the literal 9.8 million other artists on Spotify. Again, it’s a competitive ass field. Not to be confused with a ‘competitive ass’ field which sounds fun.
This argument makes me so mad because you obviously have zero idea how any of it works. The only thing you had right was that it’s a competitive and saturated market.
Artists didnt “figure out” touring pays the bills. That is the only way a performing artist can pay the bills. Artists who you would think “oh they made it, and are now setup for life” is just not true. The only ones that are like that are mega ultra pop/rock stars.
I can go on for days but honestly I don’t have the bandwidth. Merry Christmas and happy holidays my guy.
And you now even less… do you think the music producers just handed out money to struggling artists back in the day? What do you think is so much worse for artists today?
Dude you don’t even know the difference between a producer and a label.
Probably a good time to mention that you can unsub from Spotify, use it through the Brave browser, and you won’t get any ads.
:)
Can you give more info on this?
It’s pretty simple. Brave is a freeware internet browser with exceedingly good ad block, and you can listen using Spotify’s web player and it’ll play your music seamlessly with no ads. Also seemlessly blocks ads on YT and other services.
Obligatory Firefox + Ublock better
I’ve been on Firefox since it was Netscape, with no serious complaints. Tried Brave for a few months, and it’s certainly workable, but came back to Firefox because it’s the most customizable, privacy, and ad-block friendly browser (in my opinion).
