• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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    Eastern soldiers are not infantilized the same way as western troops. American soldiers are just naive boys that got tricked by evil Washington. It’s okay they killed those innocent people because they got free college for it.

    Additionally, when you look at the military actions of the west vs east in the 21st century, it’s a pretty silly comparison.

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      Ok sure man you’re right, no eastern army has ever been brainwashed into atrocities

      Saying “westoid” makes you look like a manchild on 4chan regardless. Not a word a serious person users lol

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          I don’t like my country so there’s no amount of western insults you can hit me with that will do anything but make you look like a terminally-online manchild

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              Making fun of you isn’t the same as being mad at you, but I wouldn’t expect someone who says “westoid” to have the capacity mental capacity to recognize it

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                funny, because you still sound mad as fuck about the westoid thing.

                westoids have such a fragile ego…

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                  So I guess I was right about your inability to tell the difference lol

                  You sound really mad about this

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            at least i’m allowed any education instead of being sent straight to slave-labor prison camp for my opinions.

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              You mean the ‘education’ that teaches you how to report your neighbors, build the re-education camps, and thank Dear Leader for the privilege of not being sent there yet?

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                  We don’t even know we are propogandized, it’s on par if not better than any other totalitarian system in history

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                where the fuck do you think these things are happening. just checking.

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                  They’re happening in the gap between your dog-eared copy of The State and Revolution and the annual starvation rate of North Koreans.

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                    funny how the countries westoids like to invade and blockade always seem to have issues obtaining materials and supplies. i wonder if there’s a pattern here 🤔

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        I never implied otherwise. You didn’t even engage with a single point I made. You just made one up then knocked it down lol.

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      Not sure how you are quantifying “infantilized” or even “eastern”. However, most soldiers throughout history are barely adults who are manipulated by governments to do horrific things and have horrific things done to them as well.

      A good book that I think addresses all your claims is Zinky Boys by historian Svetlana Alexievich. It’s a book of memoirs from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

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        Zinky Boys is a haunting but great read

        Also her Voices from Chernobyl is fantastic

        Afgantsy by Roderic Braithwaite is similarly great, and is written with a more historical perspective in terms of the political landscape that led to that conflict being so bitter. (relatively – all conflicts are bitter)

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        “Sorry I killed your parents kid, the big evil government manipulated me! I’m just a 21 year old child like you!”

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          Lol, yes. Once you grow up a little, you too will think 21 year old people are still basically kids.

          Do you actually think any 20 year old has valid personal reasons to go to a different country to kill someone? Of course they are being manipulated by things like nationalism.

          Your rebuttal offers nothing but insight to your own immaturity.

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            lol you heard it here folks! 21 year old children… If you kill someone and you’re 21, oopsie!

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              Lol, my dude… No one is claiming that being a young adult absolves you from war crimes. Just that young people are easier to be led to do war crimes.

              My claim was that virtually all wars are fought by young people being misled by governments with varying degrees of alternative motives. Not that those young people are free of blame, just that they are also victims to a lesser extent.

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      Not true. Everyone’s soldiers are innocent beautiful boys. The enemies are ruthless monsters. Has been forever.

      They’re all dumb as fuck. Why is signing up to kill people ok because it paid off your loans?

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      Yeah, those Russian contract soldiers totally aren’t doing it for the money. And Papa Putin’s fever dream of imperial glory totally isn’t guided by ideological delusions. Completely different.