• Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 hours ago

    Mono=one poly=seller… and last I checked Steam is not the only seller of video games. They aren’t even the only seller of digital video games. They aren’t even the only seller of digital video games for SteamOS.

    They are the largest because they do what’s right by their customers and employees. As a ‘for instance’, I bought Portal 2 for the PS3 many years ago. I no longer have my PS3 but I can still play Portal 2 (as well as Portal which was just thrown in for me) on any PC.

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      10 hours ago

      Technically Steam is not a monopoly, but the way people commonly use the term these days is as simple as “majority market share”.

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        9 hours ago

        Treat customers right and you get rewarded. They are the majority market shareholder because they have earned it, not through deceptive business practices but through being a great company.

        If they were a monopoly they wouldn’t allow other game catalogs on their systems, yet I have GOG and Epic on my Steam Deck. In fact, there isn’t even a requirement for me to have Steam on my Steam Deck. Just because a company is the market leader doesn’t mean they got there through unethical means.

        • FishFace@piefed.social
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          9 hours ago

          You are equating “monopoly” with “abusive monopoly.”

          Google got its monopoly in internet search by being better than the competition. It’s still a monopoly, even though it mostly plays by the rules.

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            8 hours ago

            No, Google pays off other browsers to use Google as the default search engine, among many other actual monopolistic practices. Steam does none of that and simply provides a product.

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              4 hours ago

              Paying people to promote your stuff is not an abuse of monopoly position, because Duckduckgo is perfectly capable of doing the same thing.

              Abuse of monopoly position would be leaning on search results to promote Chrome or Android (for example). And they have been caught doing some anti-competitive shit.

          • Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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            8 hours ago

            You are equating “monopoly” with “abusive monopoly.”

            No, I’m not. I’m saying they aren’t a monopoly by the simple fact that they aren’t the only providers of the service they sell. And while they are currently in a position to use their power to make themselves a monopoly, they are not doing that and instead are playing fair with their competition.

            • FishFace@piefed.social
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              4 hours ago

              I refer you to the other comment subthread where I mentioned textbook examples of monopolies which had 80-odd percent market share, you asked me if Steam had that, I said yes, and then you went quiet.

              Don’t bring up points that you were already challenged on and had no reply to - it’s lying, because you already know it’s wrong.

              • Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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                2 hours ago

                The gaming market is much larger than PC gaming.

                And Steam does not have an 80% market share on PC gaming, so who’s lying?

                And finally, who the fuck do you think you are that I owe you a response?

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      10 hours ago

      Ah OK, so the classic monopolies in American History (Standard Oil - controlled 90% of its market; American Tobacco - controlled 80% of its market) were not monopolies.

        • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          9 hours ago

          steam has a 75% marketshare of PC games distribution in the US. the 2nd biggest player, epic games, has a market share estimated from 3% to 7,5%. i can’t find data for steam’s market share outside the US, but i’d expect it to be even higher.

          if google can be considered to have a monopoly on web browsers with 73% of the marketshare, even as alternatives (like safari, 13%) exist, i don’t see why steam wouldn’t count as well.