Cool, so do libs want to collab wiyh us on some compromise between ‘open birders’ and ‘no borsers’?
Or do they just build concentration camps for immigrants that the fasch will eventually stick me in, and the border enforcement shutzstaffel they’ll use to do it?
Do libs want to work with us on free speech, or do they keep increasing the power of copyright and web censorship?
You’re talking about fantasy bullshiy imaginary psople who don’t exist.
In the US, Obama’s administration was publicly against “boots on the ground” since it was largely unpopular in “liberal” circles after Bush’s “War on Terror”. Instead, Obama’s administration increased drone based missions to do the violent bidding of the owning class.
“Liberals” may talk a great game about immigration reform, ending prisons like Guantanimo, net neutrality and protecting consumers from the owning class. When action is required “liberals” continue to advance the owning classes agenda using means that do not look bad to their base. Japanese internment camps were an executive order by a “liberal” President.
This is US centric, but the issues are inherent to Liberalism. Historical non-fiction is a genre of book.
I’m talking about the dictionary definition of liberalism. Real implementations of ideologies ofc will diverge from the definitions. Again, the part of my comment about how liberalism isn’t compatible with democracy and how liberalism is also defined by democracy should tell you a bit about why liberalism isn’t always as good as the ideal :P
Additionally liberalism is a broader definition and there are more specific versions of it as well. A liberal party might not specifically claim to be a specific kind of liberalism, but they are likely not the most general version
Also! Liberalism varies from country to country. I’m not american and liberalism here is different from your liberalism. That should also be noted. It’s a just as flawed ideology here mind you, but they aren’t putting people in camps (but they are perfectly willing to work with the populists ofc).
I should maybe have been clearer and said the political science definition? What I described is at least what liberalism means in a more formal context. Other definitions are more informal and will vary based on region and context.
Cool, so do libs want to collab wiyh us on some compromise between ‘open birders’ and ‘no borsers’?
Or do they just build concentration camps for immigrants that the fasch will eventually stick me in, and the border enforcement shutzstaffel they’ll use to do it?
Do libs want to work with us on free speech, or do they keep increasing the power of copyright and web censorship?
You’re talking about fantasy bullshiy imaginary psople who don’t exist.
In the US, Obama’s administration was publicly against “boots on the ground” since it was largely unpopular in “liberal” circles after Bush’s “War on Terror”. Instead, Obama’s administration increased drone based missions to do the violent bidding of the owning class.
“Liberals” may talk a great game about immigration reform, ending prisons like Guantanimo, net neutrality and protecting consumers from the owning class. When action is required “liberals” continue to advance the owning classes agenda using means that do not look bad to their base. Japanese internment camps were an executive order by a “liberal” President.
This is US centric, but the issues are inherent to Liberalism. Historical non-fiction is a genre of book.
I’m talking about the dictionary definition of liberalism. Real implementations of ideologies ofc will diverge from the definitions. Again, the part of my comment about how liberalism isn’t compatible with democracy and how liberalism is also defined by democracy should tell you a bit about why liberalism isn’t always as good as the ideal :P
Additionally liberalism is a broader definition and there are more specific versions of it as well. A liberal party might not specifically claim to be a specific kind of liberalism, but they are likely not the most general version
Also! Liberalism varies from country to country. I’m not american and liberalism here is different from your liberalism. That should also be noted. It’s a just as flawed ideology here mind you, but they aren’t putting people in camps (but they are perfectly willing to work with the populists ofc).
Whoever wrote that dictionary is fucking stupid.
Also, when them damn lefties say to read books about politics, we do not mean ‘the dictionary’.
I should maybe have been clearer and said the political science definition? What I described is at least what liberalism means in a more formal context. Other definitions are more informal and will vary based on region and context.
I have the utmost respect for that field, second only ro business and possibly law degrees.