• belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 hours ago

    Describing ethnicity based deportations and gulags as “”““prisons””“” is one hell of a stretch.

    This also neglects the amount of emancipatory legislation that Stalin repealed during his reign. Like recriminalizing homosexuality, abolishing the local language initiatives and instead pushing for his russification of the country (compare the ethnic make up of the Soviet leadership in 1921 and 1939)

    The Soviet Union had its successes and it had its abject failures. Acknowledging them doesnt make you a librul or a revisionist.

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      23 hours ago

      Describing ethnicity based deportations and gulags as “”““prisons””“” is one hell of a stretch

      Ethnicity based deportations were in fact not prisons, and they were a deplorable and unjustified episode that I wholeheartedly condemn and must be never repeated again. The GULAG system was literally prisons though, it’s just the acronym of the prison system at the time.

      As for the rest of your comment, yes, bad policy and mistakes were made during the hardest times of history. We could have a calm conversation and discussion about those, and honestly, I haven’t seen more honest criticism of failures of policy than that in Marxist-Leninist discussion, because people actually bother getting informed and reading about the topic instead of reproducing CIA propaganda. “Goolag hundred million deaths” is not good analysis.

      The Soviet Union had its successes and it had its abject failures

      Yes, and you’d be surprised how much debate there is about the problems of the USSR in actual Marxist-Leninist circles. The fact of the matter is that it still was the most emancipating socialist experiment up to its day, the first state in the world to achieve collectivization of lands, it empowered hundreds of millions of people to fight against western imperialism, and achieved all of this while living in a world dominated by western imperialism and under constant threat and the most refined and well-funded strategies to topple it.