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Mozilla Corporation has named its new CEO in replacing interim CEO Laura Chambers.
Anthony Enzor-DeMeo has been named the new CEO of Mozilla Corporation. Anthony Enzor-DeMeo was SVP of Firefox from 2004 to July 2005 and then from July until now was the GM of Firefox at Mozilla. He’s written a public message today in his first day serving as the new chief executive for Mozilla.
Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions."
OK peeps, crowd sourcing time.
What other gecko (or non-webkit) browsers are out there?
Desktop:
Android:
Except that *Fox, *Fennec and *Wolf are downstream to Firefox, so if the main trunk goes shit, they will become outdated soon.
You kinda want it to be based on Firefox, as the only other option is chrome. The forks already strip out all the mozilla bullshit, it’ll just be more work to strip out all the AI nonsense.
I’m mainly familiar with librewolf, it’s not just stripped of nonsense but also hardened by default. Actually so much so that I stayed on Firefox as it was too much effort (so far) to “unharden” all the aspects I didn’t want or need.
We’ll cross that bridge when and if we come to it. Or rather we won’t, but the devs behind these projects will.
FOSS to thrive needs people who can afford to spend time and energy on it. With the recent enshittification of workers collective power, developers have less of both, and the trend is pessimistic.
The answer is, and always has been, unions and strikes.
Do your part.
Are you telling that to someone on a .ml instance?
Huh. :P
(This is of course a joke)
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I found zen to be too busy for me, ironically. Maybe I should give it another go
It’s in beta but I daily drive it and I would say is basically as functional as Firefox already
I’ve played enough perpetually Early Access / beta vudeo games, beta web browser is just another software to me 😅
Aren’t these all soft forks of Firefox? What we need is a hard fork with the funding and team capable of sustaining it.
Not really. Mullvad Browser is a Tor Browser fork. WebLibre is a Gecko-engine based Flutter browser written from scratch.
Tor Browser is a modified Firefox ESR, which is just Firefox with less frequent releases.
Mullvad Browser is literally based on Firefox ESR. Which they clearly state.
For example: “Mullvad Browser 14.0, based on Firefox ESR 128”
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-browser-140-released
Yes, but they and the Tor Project are making enough changes that Mullvad Browser can be considered a hard fork rather than a soft fork.
Might be I’m dumb, but I don’t see any Waterfox downloads for Android?
https://github.com/BrowserWorks/waterfox-android/releases
If you want to sidestep firefox, all firefox descendants would eventually pose the same problem. So I think many options others provided are suboptimal in that regard.
I’m keeping my eyes on ladybird: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird https://ladybird.org/
But it still is in its early stages.
Not gecko but Ladybird is hopefully around the corner. Github
Alpha in 2026!
I had to switch away because of incompatible websites (Cloudflare hates it) but Pale Moon is still hanging around.
Source available here.
Looks nice. First thing I noticed is that their homepage works without JS. However I am surprised that they didn’t remove the account syncing stuff, which could also be achieved with an extension.
Can’t access it with vanadium browser ?
https://floorp.app/