They should be free to struggle and suffer to their hearts desire
This is actually how libertarians think as far as I can tell. Naive and short sighted.
Are those that didn’t opt in to any kind of healthcare or social security just going to “struggle and suffer” in silence? Or are they going to beg, steal and otherwise subject others to the consequences of their poor decisions?
Having the state make those decisions is a bit shit but it’s still less shit than letting the sort of people who vote for tax cuts for billionaires to decide for everyone else.
Libertarians and anarchists. Yes. Left or right they’re both generally going to agree with that. But don’t sleep on the language surrounding it.
Those on the right believe people should be forced to suffer, to subsidize the privilege of the wealthy. Where those on the left value consent and respect an individual’s choice not to be a party to a system even if it’s to their detriment. Though we would let them change their minds and consent in a heart beat. Since it would still benefit society.
Voluntarily contributing funds or time to such services should be viewed and treated as community service. And those that would refuse despite capability, not part of the community.
I consider myself way on the left and respect to the individual’s choice is still a conservative view for me. It puts the choice of the individual above that of the society we live in. An example: I had to take my grandfather’s driver’s license away at 93. It’s terrible for me. Terrible choice, huge burden on me and my loved ones but overall 100% the right choice for society.
Yes, but you wouldn’t consider yourself libertarian or anarchist.
If a society can’t value an individuals choice. Then why should anyone value societies choice? It’s an education issue. If a society can’t trust the decisions of those inside it. It’s because society already failed.
Taking away your grandfather’s drivers license isn’t analogous to forcing things on society at large. We took away my father’s as well. He’s still technically legal to drive. But he’s not safe and insurance crazy expensive. But not everyone his age is in that same boat. Ultimately we should have less people driving anyway.
No one said anything about society not valuing an individual’s choice at all. If the individual’s choice factors in the impact on society it should be valued more.
This is actually how libertarians think as far as I can tell. Naive and short sighted.
Are those that didn’t opt in to any kind of healthcare or social security just going to “struggle and suffer” in silence? Or are they going to beg, steal and otherwise subject others to the consequences of their poor decisions?
Having the state make those decisions is a bit shit but it’s still less shit than letting the sort of people who vote for tax cuts for billionaires to decide for everyone else.
Libertarians and anarchists. Yes. Left or right they’re both generally going to agree with that. But don’t sleep on the language surrounding it.
Those on the right believe people should be forced to suffer, to subsidize the privilege of the wealthy. Where those on the left value consent and respect an individual’s choice not to be a party to a system even if it’s to their detriment. Though we would let them change their minds and consent in a heart beat. Since it would still benefit society.
Voluntarily contributing funds or time to such services should be viewed and treated as community service. And those that would refuse despite capability, not part of the community.
I consider myself way on the left and respect to the individual’s choice is still a conservative view for me. It puts the choice of the individual above that of the society we live in. An example: I had to take my grandfather’s driver’s license away at 93. It’s terrible for me. Terrible choice, huge burden on me and my loved ones but overall 100% the right choice for society.
Yes, but you wouldn’t consider yourself libertarian or anarchist.
If a society can’t value an individuals choice. Then why should anyone value societies choice? It’s an education issue. If a society can’t trust the decisions of those inside it. It’s because society already failed.
Taking away your grandfather’s drivers license isn’t analogous to forcing things on society at large. We took away my father’s as well. He’s still technically legal to drive. But he’s not safe and insurance crazy expensive. But not everyone his age is in that same boat. Ultimately we should have less people driving anyway.
No one said anything about society not valuing an individual’s choice at all. If the individual’s choice factors in the impact on society it should be valued more.