• Crankenstein@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I can tell a lot of effort went into this but the person you are talking to clearly has no ability to recognize empirical evidence. They are utterly guided by their own uneducated feelings and nothing will convince them otherwise. I applaud you on your efforts though. Lot of good information here.

    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      I don’t disagree, they’re an incredibly propagandized individual, but engaging in discussions like that gives me practice for engaging in discussions with similarly propagandized people I know IRL. It’s helped me convert at least one person from an anti-vax conservative into a moderate at least leftist.

      • Machinist@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        Not who you were responding to.

        I’ve given up. I don’t have it in me anymore to keep trying. Never was able to get anyone back to reality after they went deep into it. Friends and family. It’s a terrible damn problem. Basically a big chunk of society needs to be deprogrammed and I haven’t seen anything that will do the trick.

        Not that I’m in any way disparaging your efforts. Good luck and god speed. Maybe you’ll find some sort of magic that will flip the switch. You’d be a motherfucking hero, no irony.

      • Crankenstein@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        I’m too autistic to engage in these discussions with people because I cannot comprehend how they can just completely ignore irrefutable data just because they don’t feel that it is correct. It utterly baffled me that people can be so controlled by their emotions to the point of just straight up rejecting reality.

        Like, I get it. I understand it on a psychological level and how they are just victims of their own innate human psychology but I for the life of me cannot have a discussion with these people about it because they just do not listen nor care about facts and I have no patience to dance around it for the sake of protecting their fragile egos.

        I’m essentially a modern day Ignaz Sammelweis.

    • presoak@lazysoci.al
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      2 hours ago

      Yes, you know the truth. And everybody around you knows the truth. And all of the right authorities agree with you. And this is all completely logical, obvious, right and scientific. And anybody who thinks otherwise is wrong, bad and insane.

      It’s an old story.