• Amuletta@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    I used to live at 3300 feet. Cooking times increased slightly over what most recipes recommended, sometimes more baking powder was needed, but I don’t remember having to add more water.

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      2 days ago

      The higher altitude, the lower the atmospheric pressure, and the lower the boiling point of water. At 3300, you were down to 207°f. I used to work at a restaurant at 8k feet and we were down to a boiling point of 195, which was enough to make things like, say brownies, noticeable dryer if you didnt compensate for the extra water boiling off durrong cooking.

      We actually had a fancy oven for pastry that you could set the pressure inside of, allowing us to cook things as though at sea level.

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          Meant to leave that context for for our metric friends, but my post was getting long so I shortened it. In Fahrenheit, water boils at 212°f and freezes at 32 at 1 atmosphere. (Sea level) the conversion rate is 1.8°f=°c (after subtracting those 32 ‘extra’ degrees)

          So at 207, his boiling point is only 5°f (3.33°c) lower than at sea level. Whereas where i was cooking, it was closer to 10°c - enough to considerably dry out anything baking for a decent amount of time, and throw a lot of baking chemistry off (anything leavening with baking soda, etc changes, and breads risk colapsing although that’s less about the h2o, and more about the pressure iirc)

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      2 days ago

      The extra cooking time results in more water loss. <Shrug> I’d imagine in most recipes it’d be nearly imperceptible.

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          1 day ago

          Wouldn’t it depend on how many cups the original recipe calls for?

          I wonder if it’s assuming you don’t use a slightly lower heat output though despite the lower boiling point?

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            1 day ago

            If you’re cooking something at altitude you shouldn’t lower the heat - you still need to cook it properly.

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              20 hours ago

              Boiling water is a fixed temperature at a given air pressure. Turning up the heat doesn’t make the water hotter. You just lose it faster. If you need higher temperatures and are cooking in boiling water, then you have to use a pressure cooker.

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                  8 hours ago

                  I meant up relative to the boiling point. Since the boiling point is lower, the same heat output is relatively higher. It just boils the water faster and does nothing to the temperature. You just need enough heat to get it to a boil if you don’t want to waste extra water and heat.

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      I’m not sure if it’s still the case but most of the population in Mexico is above 3000 feet so recipes had variations for sea level instead (the recipe was made for 1000msnm)

      Sometimes it was confusing if you got something imported from the US or some brand that needed to be adjusted for high altitude