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    No Facebook post, but thanks. ADHD is simply a heightened awareness and inability to focus on tedious tasks for a long time. So, not great for modern society but perfect for living off the land.

    You can call it an “imbalance” all you want, but who are you to decide what a “balance” looks like?

    This is what happens when people accept what they are told and cannot rationalize for themselves. Your “balance” is from someone who wants you to sit in a cubicle and type on a keyboard all day.

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      inability to focus

      So, a disability then. Because the majority of people can, so modern society expects it of everyone.

      Disabilities are social. If everyone was blind it wouldn’t be a disability.

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      You are looking at ADHD as what the signs are and even there, you are missing most of them. There are a lot more symptoms than signs in ADHD the inability to focus is just one of many.

      But more important than that is what ADHD is neurologicaly. I simplified it a ton to make it easier.

      An imbalance is an incorrect amount. There are normal ranges that humans fall into. Some more, some less , that’s why it’s a range. The body works properly when it falls in that range. When we don’t have enough or too much of something our bodies stop working they way they should and results in disorders. That’s why hospitals will draw labs and see what is elevated, or depressed. We know what the general range should be, so we know when something is too high or to low.

      This has nothing to do with sitting behind a keyboard and everything to do with faulty wiring and suboptimal amounts of norepinephrine. Not to mention that the brains of people with ADHD have a smaller frontal lobe and noteable differences in the limbic regions and basically ganglia.

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        Current neuroscience does not support a simple “chemical imbalance” model with “normal” ranges the way blood labs work. Dopamine and norepinephrine signaling are involved, but ADHD is better understood as differences in how certain brain networks develop and regulate behavior, particularly fronto-striatal and limbic circuits. It’s about signal timing, regulation, and responsiveness- not just having too little or too much of a neurotransmitter.

        Likewise, your claims about a “smaller frontal lobe” are oversimplified. Imaging studies show average developmental and connectivity differences in regions like the prefrontal cortex, basal ganglia, and limbic system, but these differences are subtle, highly variable, and strongly overlapping with neurotypical brains. They are not defects and not diagnostic on their own.

        Framing this as an adaptation rather than a defect is more than reasonable. Traits associated with ADHD, namely novelty seeking, rapid scanning of the environment, high energy, risk tolerance, and creative problem-solving offered advantages in ancestral high-stimulus environments. What you define as a disorder is a mismatch between these traits and modern expectations, not something inherently “broken” in the brain.

        No worries, since I’m sure we’ll all be back there soon enough and we’ll see how well the ADHDers fare.

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          Earlier I was intentionally simplifying things. You’re right that the old “simple chemical imbalance” explanation of ADHD is outdated. But completely discarding biology in response goes too far in the other direction. ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder involving dysregulation across multiple systems. It isn’t just a neutral difference in brain wiring.

          Dopamine and norepinephrine still matter here. The fact that stimulant and non-stimulant medications targeting these systems consistently reduce symptoms is not a coincidence. That clinical effectiveness reflects real underlying biology, even if no single neurotransmitter abnormality fully explains ADHD on its own. In medicine and psychology, we don’t define disorders based on imaging findings. We define them based on persistent impairment and dysfunction, and ADHD clearly meets that bar. That’s why it has a diagnosis in the DSM. The impairments are real, measurable, and reproducible.

          It’s also true that structural and functional differences in areas like the prefrontal cortex, basal ganglia, and limbic system tend to be subtle and overlap with neurotypical populations. But subtle doesn’t mean irrelevant. These differences are consistently linked to problems with executive function, reward processing, impulse control, and emotional regulation. More importantly, they show up in real-world outcomes: academic difficulties, unstable employment, higher injury rates, and increased risk of comorbid psychiatric conditions.

          The idea that ADHD is primarily an evolutionary adaptation rather than a disorder is, at this point, speculative. Models like the “hunter versus farmer” hypothesis haven’t been supported by evolutionary genetics or population-level data. Current evidence doesn’t show clear positive selection for ADHD-associated alleles, and some data actually suggest reduced reproductive fitness over time. There’s a meaningful difference between metaphors that help people feel better about themselves and explanations that are supported by solid evidence.

          Acknowledging strengths commonly seen in people with ADHD—creativity, energy, novel problem-solving—is important and appropriate. But recognizing strengths doesn’t cancel out pathology. Many medical and neurodevelopmental conditions come with areas of resilience or advantage. That doesn’t turn them into adaptations instead of disorders.

          ADHD is considered a disorder because, across cultures and contexts, it reliably causes clinically significant impairment without treatment or accommodation. Minimizing that reality in the name of reducing stigma ends up doing people with ADHD a disservice. ADHD is a legitimate disorder with real, measurable impairments. At the same time, people with ADHD are not broken, deficient, or without meaningful strengths. Both of those things can be true at once.