I’m pretty sure, Netanyahu could have stopped it as well or other people in Israeli government. Also, while the US is the largest supplier, it’s far from the only one. The second largest is Germany and the whole German political establishment is Zionist, including the Green Party and parts of The Left. Since the genocide, there have been 2 government coalitions and in total 4 parties each of them could have vetoed German weapon supply.
I’m not saying Biden or the US are innocent but it’s not only them. Israel is part of the broader Western imperialism.
Germany voted for ceasefire and for making food a human right in 2024. Both were vetoed by the US. There are many other UN resolutions that follow this voting pattern. Germany may be profiteering and enabling, but the US is fully in charge of the situation. They are not the same. The existence of the US’s unilateral veto powers in the security council is another good reminder that they are fundamentally operating on different levels.
Germany voted for ceasefire and for making food a human right in 2024.
That’s the difference between killed children on 0 kcal per day and killing children on 500 kcal per day. A temporal ceasefire is no end of genocide.
the US is fully in charge of the situation.
No, Israel is in charge of the situation. The difference of the US and Germany is one of quantity and not of quality. Germany never paused weapon supply.
It’s not one single villain but many people who could stop it and the problem is colonialism and imperialism. We shouldn’t individualize the topic but think in systems. Even if Netanyahu wasn’t in charge, someone else would continue the genocide with support of the Western World, what ever that might mean.
Yes, Israel, the global hegemon. I would love to spread the blame, but seeing as the US has been the only functional vote in favor of Israel’s genocide for 40+ years, the US that allows Israel to decide how Jerusalem will be run, contrary to UN resolutions, the US leadership that calls Netanyahu when he has gone too far, and that Netanyahu listens, you will literally never convince me that it’s not the most important player. I’m aware it’s a systems issue. International conflict is undemocratic and the UN specifically is a system that has no written path for dealing with a bad actor within the P5. We cannot tell how much festers underneath until the US’s unilateral international decision making power stops covering up what the rest of western civilization thinks. I think quite a bit! I think large nations are functionally a front for multinational corporations doing as they please in the name of profit! I think that much of wealthy Europe is happy to sit back and let “America” take the heat for their inhumane financial decisions! But until that happens we should take all the actors at their word and focus on the only one who openly calls for the genocide to continue, instead of speculating on how deep the problem may run and getting overwhelmed with its hypothetical depth.
Needless to say that the genocide started earlier. In terms of weapon supply, Germany was number one in the 50s until the US started to see the usefulness and overtook us by far.
you will literally never convince me that it’s not the most important player.
I never said that. The US is the biggest player outside Israel by all metrics. What I’m saying is that it’s not the only player. I’m still convinced that it wouldn’t be possible to the degree it is done today without Germany and many others.
focus on the only one who openly calls for the genocide to continue
But that’s quite a few, including in Europe. In Germany, you can be deported for denying Israel’s right to exist. Annalena Bärbock, the former “feminist” minister of foreign affairs, said that civilians lose their privileges when they are used as human shields and she’s expert in international law so she knows this isn’t true. She later denied that she ever said it after being elected into the UN which is even worse since there are records of that.
The reason why I focus so much on Germany is that I happen to live there. There is no reason for me to focus on a government I have no influence on. I’m not going to protest a government on the other side of the pond and I have reasons enough to boycott the US already. The little influence I have, I have on my government. There is no use in finding the worst and ignoring the rest. There is more than one battle to be fought.
Oh, sure, I didn’t mean you should focus on another country’s completely inaccessible leaders instead of your own marginally accessible representatives. Just that there is no long term viable global solution within the bounds of the UN and that the focus should be on fixing or ignoring or replacing it. Convincing all of Germany that Israel has no right to kill Palestinians doesn’t really change the reality of the situation when the US threatens unilateral economic and military action against anyone who opposes their little ethnostate experiment.
That’s obviously nothing more than my opinion about the best path forward. Perhaps I’m wrong and what’s needed first is a powerful EU actor to take a more visible stand, to make the chains of the security council more obvious when the people’s desires are rendered moot. But my experience is that liberal politicians quite like the stability of written bylaws, more so than actual democracy. Better for Palestine to be blown away than for there to be any uncertainty.
He finances and supported it, vetoed near unanimous resolutions to wnd the genocide, and a Biden had all the power to stop it. he was too busy masturbating over the streams of beheaded toddlers to do anything about it.
Gaza. The actions of Israel are the actions of the US. The US uses Israel to do its most horrific war crimes. All while associating Israel (falsely) with the will of the entire Jewish people.
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I think they are talking about Gaza. Biden didn’t start the genocide there but without US weapons, it wouldn’t be possible
He was probably he only person on the planet with the sole power to have stopped it, but he’s a self proclaimed zionist so go figure.
I’m pretty sure, Netanyahu could have stopped it as well or other people in Israeli government. Also, while the US is the largest supplier, it’s far from the only one. The second largest is Germany and the whole German political establishment is Zionist, including the Green Party and parts of The Left. Since the genocide, there have been 2 government coalitions and in total 4 parties each of them could have vetoed German weapon supply.
I’m not saying Biden or the US are innocent but it’s not only them. Israel is part of the broader Western imperialism.
Germany voted for ceasefire and for making food a human right in 2024. Both were vetoed by the US. There are many other UN resolutions that follow this voting pattern. Germany may be profiteering and enabling, but the US is fully in charge of the situation. They are not the same. The existence of the US’s unilateral veto powers in the security council is another good reminder that they are fundamentally operating on different levels.
That’s the difference between killed children on 0 kcal per day and killing children on 500 kcal per day. A temporal ceasefire is no end of genocide.
No, Israel is in charge of the situation. The difference of the US and Germany is one of quantity and not of quality. Germany never paused weapon supply.
It’s not one single villain but many people who could stop it and the problem is colonialism and imperialism. We shouldn’t individualize the topic but think in systems. Even if Netanyahu wasn’t in charge, someone else would continue the genocide with support of the Western World, what ever that might mean.
Yes, Israel, the global hegemon. I would love to spread the blame, but seeing as the US has been the only functional vote in favor of Israel’s genocide for 40+ years, the US that allows Israel to decide how Jerusalem will be run, contrary to UN resolutions, the US leadership that calls Netanyahu when he has gone too far, and that Netanyahu listens, you will literally never convince me that it’s not the most important player. I’m aware it’s a systems issue. International conflict is undemocratic and the UN specifically is a system that has no written path for dealing with a bad actor within the P5. We cannot tell how much festers underneath until the US’s unilateral international decision making power stops covering up what the rest of western civilization thinks. I think quite a bit! I think large nations are functionally a front for multinational corporations doing as they please in the name of profit! I think that much of wealthy Europe is happy to sit back and let “America” take the heat for their inhumane financial decisions! But until that happens we should take all the actors at their word and focus on the only one who openly calls for the genocide to continue, instead of speculating on how deep the problem may run and getting overwhelmed with its hypothetical depth.
Needless to say that the genocide started earlier. In terms of weapon supply, Germany was number one in the 50s until the US started to see the usefulness and overtook us by far.
I never said that. The US is the biggest player outside Israel by all metrics. What I’m saying is that it’s not the only player. I’m still convinced that it wouldn’t be possible to the degree it is done today without Germany and many others.
But that’s quite a few, including in Europe. In Germany, you can be deported for denying Israel’s right to exist. Annalena Bärbock, the former “feminist” minister of foreign affairs, said that civilians lose their privileges when they are used as human shields and she’s expert in international law so she knows this isn’t true. She later denied that she ever said it after being elected into the UN which is even worse since there are records of that.
The reason why I focus so much on Germany is that I happen to live there. There is no reason for me to focus on a government I have no influence on. I’m not going to protest a government on the other side of the pond and I have reasons enough to boycott the US already. The little influence I have, I have on my government. There is no use in finding the worst and ignoring the rest. There is more than one battle to be fought.
Oh, sure, I didn’t mean you should focus on another country’s completely inaccessible leaders instead of your own marginally accessible representatives. Just that there is no long term viable global solution within the bounds of the UN and that the focus should be on fixing or ignoring or replacing it. Convincing all of Germany that Israel has no right to kill Palestinians doesn’t really change the reality of the situation when the US threatens unilateral economic and military action against anyone who opposes their little ethnostate experiment.
That’s obviously nothing more than my opinion about the best path forward. Perhaps I’m wrong and what’s needed first is a powerful EU actor to take a more visible stand, to make the chains of the security council more obvious when the people’s desires are rendered moot. But my experience is that liberal politicians quite like the stability of written bylaws, more so than actual democracy. Better for Palestine to be blown away than for there to be any uncertainty.
He finances and supported it, vetoed near unanimous resolutions to wnd the genocide, and a Biden had all the power to stop it. he was too busy masturbating over the streams of beheaded toddlers to do anything about it.
Gaza. The actions of Israel are the actions of the US. The US uses Israel to do its most horrific war crimes. All while associating Israel (falsely) with the will of the entire Jewish people.