• LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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    Who is it strawmanning? It’s a joke about how the entire “international community” turned on Russia in an instant but America and their dogs (“Israel”) can do whatever they want. That’s true and obvious to anyone who has even lightly kept up with the news for the last few years.

    For example, among America, “Israel”, and Russia, which ones can still participate in international sporting competitions and which has one of the most sanctioned economies on Earth? These sanctions obviously harm even Russians who do not agree with their government, whereas Americans have zero consequences, even those in the government. That’s the joke in the comic.

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      I’m not active in much mainstream social media, but I’m not aware of many people who attack normal Russian citizens, especially when they’re complaining about their government? It feels like a bad-faith premise basically.

      I’ve never been a fan of the whole «А у вас негров линчуют» rhetoric. Is it not possible to fuck America, fuck Russia, and fuck the so-called state of Israel?

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        I’m not active in much mainstream social media, but I’m not aware of many people who attack normal Russian citizens

        You’ve never seen racism against Russians expressed online? People call Russians “orcs” all the time, and that’s only the most obvious example. Half of Americans seem to fully believe nefarious Russian plots decide their elections with absolutely zero actual evidence (edit: and Europeans are as bad or worse with the conspiracy theories). The comic is also talking about visa bans, which are a real-world consequence for all Russians and not just some social media thing.

        especially when they’re complaining about their government?

        This (I think) is just emphasis for the joke, but I assure you that I have seen this too. Also, as I said, the comic specifically refers to visa bans, which do actually affect Russians who oppose their government as well.

        I’ve never been a fan of the whole «А у вас негров линчуют» rhetoric. Is it not possible to fuck America, fuck Russia, and fuck the so-called state of Israel?

        That’s great, you can have that opinion. The comic is about how actual consequences exist for enemies of America but not for Americans. Also, at the time the USSR said that, it was, in fact, extremely true and a very apt way to point out the hypocrisy of the Americans presenting themselves as the champions of human rights - which is once again happening today.

        English translation of the Russian for anyone reading. CW for antiquated language and reference to racist hate crimes.

        And you are lynching Negroes