I saw someone saying recently that Canada has made a huge shift away from the US. As someone Canadian, I haven’t noticed anything beyond relatively minor individual decisions (IE, not going to the US as a tourist). I’d like to be wrong, but from my understanding, this is effectively nothing. Has there actually been any sort of large scale move away from US dependence?

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    The Conservatives wanted to enthusiastically gargle Trump’s balls and move us closer to fascism.

    I agree with the rest of your comment but this sentence stood out.

    The Conservatives want to move us closer to Trump, but the Liberals are still moving us closer to fascism. Look at bills C-2 and C-12, which bring our border and immigration policies much more in line with the US.

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      That’s a separate issue and yes I agree, liberals aren’t saints and need to be checked, I’m just focusing on the whole Trump part.

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      It’s a defensive posture. It’s those things that are keeping us from random 1,000,000% tariffs that would take a decade to litigate. Nobody wants it, but we kind of need to play along while we figure out how to get out of this mess.

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        Sure, just a little bit of fascism will be fine. Nothing could go wrong there.

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          Well your realpolitik option is a supersized portion with Poilievre. Until we get proportional representation we are all hostage.

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            Voting for fascism is never the right choice. Even in a two-party system, everyone still has the option to not vote for either Kang or Kodos. “Throw your vote away” is always a valid electoral choice, and perhaps in some cases, the only morally defensible one. We even happen to have a still marginally viable third party, and even if all your vote is doing is keeping that third choice barely alive on the margins, that has its own form of validity too.

            Strategic voting is the opposite of strategic. It’s a short-term, single-election tactic that will result in a strategic collapse in the long term. You do not ever have to vote for one party to prevent the other party from getting in. That is not your responsibility, and if you do that, it’s not going to ever get better. You are sacrificing the future for the present, and the present is fleeting but the future is forever. We have to think longer term, or we will have absolutely no recourse when both of the top choices end up being unconscionable.

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              If you think this is a Kang and Kodos situation you are legitimately insane. On one side you have a PhD level economist (Oxon) who is former Governor of the National Banks of both Canada and England, and on the other you have a convoy supporting career politician who has been playing partisan gadfly since he was an undergraduate at University of Calgary.

              Your quickness to bring in " throw away your vote" as legitimate strategy screams of trolling.