• phar@lemmy.world
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      And? The swastika wasn’t always a Nazi symbol. Now when people think of it they think Nazis. The hammer and sickle make people think USSR. Making people think of Stalin is not the way to go. A new symbol or simply not using that symbol would be a better choice.

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        Swastika means Nazis now, hammer and sickle means communism, not USSR, that is what comes up when you think about it, not when everyone thinks about it. what, just to accommodate you specifically every communist organization must change signs?

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          It was the symbol on their flag. More than just me. There are people outside of Lemmy, you know. People relate things when they see them associated over and over their whole lives. But even if only a smaller percentage associate it, I would still prefer a symbol that no one associates with mass murder.

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            so, everyone must change their sign usage to accommodate you because your ignorance must be protected?

            grow up and find some real problems.

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              No, its called bad marketing. If as a group socialist and communist would like to promote their ideas then having the symbol they are using be associated with the worst of the worst is not good. That is why I would prefer for something else to be used. You’re welcome to disagree but you don’t need to be rude just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying.

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                it still sounds like what you associate, not normal people. you’re saying we should all conform with your ignorance? like, you can’t separate the logo of an ideology with states that were related to it? and your tearing the ussr like it was Nazi Germany. are you going to bring the 100 million deaths by communism? because that’s what you’re alluding to. many of those made up 100 million were straight up Nazis, so it’s a good things the Soviets (under the sickle and hammer) got rid of them. making the symbol even better.

                get your head out of your ass and stop telling everyone how to organize.

                if you want to, no one is stopping you from starting your own communist party with your ass as a flag instead of the hammer and sickle.

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                associated with the worst of the worst

                This association is due to not challenging cold war propaganda over the last century and look where its gotten the American left.

                Rejecting the symbol of communism because a project that transformed 250 million illiterate, starving peasants into a space-faring superpower with a quality of life comparable the west used it is the equivalent of prefacing every discussion of Palestine with rejecting Hamas and acknowledging a settler colonial state’s right to exist, every discussion of Venezuela with calling Maduro a dictator who should be sanctioned, every discussion of China with “ccp evil”.

                You’ve already lost if you’re gonna go along with whatever horseshit your opposition says about you.