It’s easier to disable all the garbage than remove the garbage?

  • artyom@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    Because Linux is still an enormous hurdle for a lot of people, and completely incompatible with lots of proprietary hardware people actually need.

    Stop pretending like you don’t understand why 98% of PC users still choose Windows. I’m not one of them, but let’s not delude ourselves, it is tiring.

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      98% of Windows users, use windows because that’s what the OS that came with the computer they could afford.

      98% of windows users probably don’t know what version they are on or even what windows is

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        98% of Windows users, use windows because that’s what the OS that came with the computer

        OEMs pay MS to put it on the computer. Why do you think that is?

        they could afford

        As if Linux PCs are more expensive?

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          Apple computers, which is a higher market share than Linux, are more expensive. That’s what I was getting at.

          Windows became dominant because of enterprise software sales 20 years ago. Now everything runs in an electron wrapper that can run on any platform or in the browser.

          PCs don’t even have optical drives anymore. No normal consumer even knows how to install a program today, let alone is considering legacy program compatibility when making a computer purchasing decision

          I am qualifying my statements based on interactions with my coworkers of whom I deploy and manage their PCs. I could probably install mint on 50% of their PCs and the only reason they’d notice is because Microsoft office looks different and is called Libre Office for some reason

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            Now everything runs in an electron wrapper that can run on any platform or in the browser.

            No. If it did Google would be winning with their incredibly weak Chromebooks.

            No normal consumer even knows how to install a program today

            What is a “normal consumer”? All of them? No. Enough of them that many platforms are dependent on that knowledge, yes.

            I am qualifying my statements based on interactions with my coworkers

            That sounds like an extreme bias.

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      Are 98% of PC users using proprietary hardware incompatible with Linux? That would be pretty crazy, considering that that list of hardware is miniscule.

      Like, I get where you’re coming from, Linux isn’t a 100% perfect drop in replacement for Windows that covers every single scenario and edge case. But it’s never going to be that, and I don’t think it needs to be that. It’s still good enough to recommend over Windows. That hurdle won’t get any shorter if people don’t at least try using it.

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        Are 98% of PC users using proprietary hardware incompatible with Linux?

        Hardware compatibility is just one of a long list of reasons. The primary of which is usability. Linux can be completely free of ads and pop-ups but it doesn’t matter if it can’t do the things you need it to do, or it’s too complicated to make it do them.

        Linux isn’t a 100% perfect drop in replacement

        I don’t know where you got this binary position. No, it doesn’t have to be, that’s not the point.

        It’s still good enough to recommend over Windows.

        You can recommend it all day, if it can’t do what the user needs it to do, you’re wasting your breath. Some of them aren’t mandatory but many of them are deal breakers.

        That hurdle won’t get any shorter if people don’t at least try using it.

        No one is suggesting anyone shouldn’t try it. But trying it also costs time and (probably) money.

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          There’s absolutely no way KDE is “complicated to use” unless your brain is the size of a goldfish grown in a badly kept piece of Tupperware.

          An Android phone’s default UI is significanty harder to navigate, compared to the standard Windows desktop metaphor, than KDE’s default UI. People handle Android just fine.

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          Most Linux distros these days are more usable and less complicated than Windows. It’s not difficult for most people to get it to do the things they need it to do. This view that Linux doesn’t have the software selection or features comparable to an Enterprise Operating System ™️ like Windows is largely outdated and misguided.

          No one is suggesting anyone shouldn’t try it.

          Mkay, sure, uh huh. You’re being awfully discouraging without explicitly telling people not to try Linux, but c’mon, we know what you’re doing.

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            Most Linux distros these days are more usable and less complicated than Windows.

            Abso-fuckin-lutely not. You’re just lying.

            This view that Linux doesn’t have the software selection or features comparable to an Enterprise Operating System ™️ like Windows is largely outdated and misguided.

            It isn’t.

            You’re being awfully discouraging

            I am not discouraging anything. I am being realistic. You are not.