I’ve been on Posteo for years now, they’ve been rock solid. As for Tuta.io, the issue specifically is no IMAP support, which is what third party email clients need to function.
I thought I’d also mention Protonmail, which might look good, but is in a similar boat. They technically do provide IMAP support, but not in a way that matters. If you wanted to connect Protonmail to Thunderbird or, if you’re an insane person, Microsoft Outlook, you’d need another app running on your PC along with your email app called Proton Bridge, which just sounds like a hassle. No mobile version either.
I’d say stick with Posteo. Alternatively, if you want to use your own domain name, I’ve heard good things about mailbox.org.
My bad, I wasn’t clear enough. I actually meant Proton Bridge has no mobile version, meaning you can only use the official app you mentioned, but not any third party apps like K-9 Mail/Thunderbird or FairEmail.
Aw yeah that makes sense actually on rereading it. I think i was going to try the Proton Bridge at first on moving to Linux but then saw it was only available via their paid version.
That put me off lol, so I’m just sticking to using it via browser and their own mobile app for now.
Their privacy policy expressly states they have access to metadata and they have a non-public blacklist which filters “undesirable” domains. Try creating an account on zlibrary using your Protonmail.
Also worthy of notice, they are legally forced to hand over shitloads of user data as seen in their transparency report.
Not to be a tinfoil hat guy, there’s good reason for this and there’s no free email service that is much better privacy-wise. The actual content of your mails are probably safe with Proton.
Their privacy policy states the obvious, and repeats what’s in the SMTP RFC (821). I can only guess this is because of transparency.
All email providers have access to that information. I would actually argue for them that they are better at letting people know which kind of data they do and don’t have access to.
Every (email) service is bound to the law of the country they reside or operate in. Proton has part of its offerings in Switzerland, part in EU (Germany if I recall well). Swiss FADP is very close to GDPR. Also when it comes to privacy protection. Every company bound to GDPR (or FADP) has to abide to the law, and when law enforcement has a good reason to check out user data, and the judge agrees, any company has to provide evidence.
Even non-EU based companies offering services in EU.
With their transparency report they are providing a tool to their users to know and understand what happens to their data in a lawful manner. And I see that as a win for transparency.
But this is just my opinion, and it is ok to not agree with how I see the world.
I don’t disagree and like I said, you won’t find much better free privacy-oriented email services. Their filter is rather heavy-handed when it comes to “undesirable” domains and as a pirate I’ve run into it enough to seek other services.
Your view of the world is quite reasonable, I think!
I’ve been on Posteo for years now, they’ve been rock solid. As for Tuta.io, the issue specifically is no IMAP support, which is what third party email clients need to function.
I thought I’d also mention Protonmail, which might look good, but is in a similar boat. They technically do provide IMAP support, but not in a way that matters. If you wanted to connect Protonmail to Thunderbird or, if you’re an insane person, Microsoft Outlook, you’d need another app running on your PC along with your email app called Proton Bridge, which just sounds like a hassle. No mobile version either.
I’d say stick with Posteo. Alternatively, if you want to use your own domain name, I’ve heard good things about mailbox.org.
Just to clarify - Protonmail does have a mobile app (works great by the way, especially on Graphene)
https://protonapps.com/
My bad, I wasn’t clear enough. I actually meant Proton Bridge has no mobile version, meaning you can only use the official app you mentioned, but not any third party apps like K-9 Mail/Thunderbird or FairEmail.
Aw yeah that makes sense actually on rereading it. I think i was going to try the Proton Bridge at first on moving to Linux but then saw it was only available via their paid version.
That put me off lol, so I’m just sticking to using it via browser and their own mobile app for now.
I deleted my Protonmail after learning about their metadata filtering practices. The more you learn about Proton the sketchier they seem.
Source, pretty please? I’d like to read up.
Their privacy policy expressly states they have access to metadata and they have a non-public blacklist which filters “undesirable” domains. Try creating an account on zlibrary using your Protonmail.
Also worthy of notice, they are legally forced to hand over shitloads of user data as seen in their transparency report.
Not to be a tinfoil hat guy, there’s good reason for this and there’s no free email service that is much better privacy-wise. The actual content of your mails are probably safe with Proton.
Their privacy policy states the obvious, and repeats what’s in the SMTP RFC (821). I can only guess this is because of transparency. All email providers have access to that information. I would actually argue for them that they are better at letting people know which kind of data they do and don’t have access to.
Every (email) service is bound to the law of the country they reside or operate in. Proton has part of its offerings in Switzerland, part in EU (Germany if I recall well). Swiss FADP is very close to GDPR. Also when it comes to privacy protection. Every company bound to GDPR (or FADP) has to abide to the law, and when law enforcement has a good reason to check out user data, and the judge agrees, any company has to provide evidence. Even non-EU based companies offering services in EU. With their transparency report they are providing a tool to their users to know and understand what happens to their data in a lawful manner. And I see that as a win for transparency.
But this is just my opinion, and it is ok to not agree with how I see the world.
I don’t disagree and like I said, you won’t find much better free privacy-oriented email services. Their filter is rather heavy-handed when it comes to “undesirable” domains and as a pirate I’ve run into it enough to seek other services.
Your view of the world is quite reasonable, I think!