It’s interesting to view Fossil Fuel industry supporters, and the demise of the industry as renewables take over the world, through Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s famous five stages of grief - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Fewer and fewer people are in denial, and most seem to have moved on to the anger & bargaining stage. This latest announcement from CATL should bring more to the depression & acceptance stages.

Most vans and trucks are owned by businesses, big and small. Soon they’ll have a choice. Stick with expensive gasoline, or go for the electric option that gets cheaper every year that passes. Being businesses, which do you guess they’ll go for?

Up next - CATL says they have sodium batteries for passenger cars that are 10–19 dollars/kWh, that is approx 10% of current lithium battery prices, which are already cheaper than gasoline.

All of this, for people who are paying attention, is one more nail in the fossil fuel coffin.

CATL launches sodium batteries: extremely durable and stable at –40°C

  • vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    You still need tons of heat for the cabin. At those temperatures the waste heat from the engine is actually not wasted since the meatbags inside need to be warm.

    It would hurt range a lot but for commuting that’s probably still fine, and no worries about heating up the car more than having the windows defrosted before you drive it.

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      17 hours ago

      Our 2025 Ioniq 6 gets 530km in summer, but about 350 (or less ) in winter. Drop that by about 60km if the heat is on full.

      The real problem is that charging stations are sometimes 100km apart, many “pumps” are not working, most max out at 50kW (our car can handle up to 350kW), and because of all these factors, you might have to wait an hour or two for other cars to finish before even starting your charge, and then charging can take 90 minutes.

      Cold weather like we’ve been having (-25°C or colder some nights) makes this even worse.

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        14 hours ago

        Good to hear from someone who actually does this. Considering how big and empty Canada is I don’t see how there’s ever going to be fast chargers unless freight uses them, rail freight is way better for road safety and efficiency though (even with diesel locomotives, it uses 10-20% of the fuel road vehicles do).

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      Even at half efficiency in my EV in the winter, I’m still beating any car at 40 mpg dollar for dollar in what I pay in electricity rates.

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        14 hours ago

        Yes for most uses EVs are more cost efficient and only suck for long trips, which most people don’t do often if at all. Makes you wish for actually good train services, and maybe a comeback of train services where you can ship your car before the meat bags.