The horrible truth is many of the people who have the right opinion got there in the same stupid flawed ways as people who have the wrong opinion, and are deep down no better, but just accidentally appear to be so. These people just want what they want, they don’t care if it makes sense, they don’t care about validating their beliefs against reality or having logical arguments for their beliefs. They don’t want to be know truth, they want what they already believe to be truth.
The only good people are people who are brave enough to actively test their beliefs and earnestly question their own ideology (and accept that they even have one).
Almost no one does this. People often even say they “don’t have an ideology”. Its convenient, if you have no belief system there is nothing to question.
Yeah I agree. I think the only refinement I’d add to this statement is that such people aren’t even necessarily located in “good” territory. They have a velocity in the direction of goodness, but their position may still be in bad territory. And likewise there are people who are in good territory but have a velocity in the direction of bad territory. What a complicated world…
I mean, I’ve interacted with someone with active anti-semitic beliefs in a dedicated debate space who eventually changed his views to “Well, its not the Jews fault that they got into finance. They just kind of got funneled into that.” So absolutely people with shitty views can evolve in the right direction. I respect that a million times more than someone who is morally lucky and never budges.
And example of the opposite would be someone who adopts progressive stances of their time and never evolved from there or have selective self serving progressive blinders. “LGB w/o the T”, rainbow capitalists, Red-brown alliance types, etc.
Yeah, I respect them more for sure. It gets tricky if I’m like, appointing someone for a one year period or something though, then I have to consider both the position and velocity.
The horrible truth is many of the people who have the right opinion got there in the same stupid flawed ways as people who have the wrong opinion, and are deep down no better, but just accidentally appear to be so. These people just want what they want, they don’t care if it makes sense, they don’t care about validating their beliefs against reality or having logical arguments for their beliefs. They don’t want to be know truth, they want what they already believe to be truth.
The only good people are people who are brave enough to actively test their beliefs and earnestly question their own ideology (and accept that they even have one).
Almost no one does this. People often even say they “don’t have an ideology”. Its convenient, if you have no belief system there is nothing to question.
Yeah I agree. I think the only refinement I’d add to this statement is that such people aren’t even necessarily located in “good” territory. They have a velocity in the direction of goodness, but their position may still be in bad territory. And likewise there are people who are in good territory but have a velocity in the direction of bad territory. What a complicated world…
I mean, I’ve interacted with someone with active anti-semitic beliefs in a dedicated debate space who eventually changed his views to “Well, its not the Jews fault that they got into finance. They just kind of got funneled into that.” So absolutely people with shitty views can evolve in the right direction. I respect that a million times more than someone who is morally lucky and never budges.
And example of the opposite would be someone who adopts progressive stances of their time and never evolved from there or have selective self serving progressive blinders. “LGB w/o the T”, rainbow capitalists, Red-brown alliance types, etc.
Yeah, I respect them more for sure. It gets tricky if I’m like, appointing someone for a one year period or something though, then I have to consider both the position and velocity.