• Signtist@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      Pretty sure they’re saying that tearing down capitalism entirely is the only approach.

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        4 months ago

        I think I can get behind that but do need more details about what replaces it and how.

        • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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          4 months ago

          Droughts and floods, rising sea levels, hurricanes and tornadoes, sweltering heat waves, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together — mass hysteria!

          But yeah, we need more details about the alternatives.

      • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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        4 months ago

        Huge-scale capitalism — Boeing and GM and Musk, et al — absolutely, but my home town diner isn’t doing any damage. Coffee and a cinnamon danish, please.

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          All businesses weren’t doing much damage until they got big enough to do damage. Capitalism isn’t so much the pursuit of capital in general as it is the pursuit of capital over all else. If your diner values giving customers a good meal as much as it values making a profit, it’s great! But if it follows the capitalistic method of squeezing all profit from the scenario, all else be damned, then it’s just a smaller version of all the major businesses.

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            4 months ago

            Exactly.
            (: Join me for flapjacks and coffee, and you’ll like the place as much as I do.

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    4 months ago

    Not saying do nothing. These fuckers need to pay. But it’s already too late. Get your apocalypse plan together because by 2040 this world as we know it is over.

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      Honestly, yes. The time has passed. Even if we took enormous action immediately (which, spoiler, won’t happen), the damage is done and the impact will continue.

      It makes me glad to be old. I’ll be gone, I hope, before the city I live in is washed away.

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    The solution is to protest. Stop businesses from doing business - the bigger the business, the louder the message. Make the money stop to make the changes needed.

    If we could get the world to stop like it was the start of the pandemic, then the world can get a chance to heal. The next step to undoing the damage is carbon capture and carbon sinks. We have to find a way to remove the carbon and build a natural system to deal with it - forests work great for all of these. Grow nature, save the world.

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      General protests are worthless, yell and shout all you want they have no incentive to listen and thus they never will. We must give them incentive to listen, a sharp incentive, maybe on a like a blade on a rope in a wooden track, and maybe you put their head in it?

      • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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        4 months ago

        Violence is not the answer, we’re taught. Most people believe it, and heck, I’ve said it myself.

        But you know what else isn’t the answer?

        Peaceful picketing. Sending a letter to your Congresscritter. Going to meetings…

        Good people have done all those things, without success since the 1960s — back when protests carried an undertone of “or else.”

        What’s needed is more of “or else.”