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    jurisdiction in the US, which means a lot of Linux distros are not an option anymore.

    Please elaborate and provide some receipts to what you mean.


    I know your list is what you use, my list is more data for you to DYOR and find even better, privacy respecting alternatives than what you suggested. As you say, do whatever you think is best.

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      Just a couple of examples

      Red Hat Developed by a U.S.-based company.

      Fedora A community-driven project sponsored by Red Hat.

      Debian Originally founded in the U.S., with some legal ties to US regulations.

      Slackware developed by Patrick Volkerding in the US

      Since these distributions are developed or registered in the United States, they are subject to US laws, regulations, and export restrictions.

      When I have a look at what’s happening right now in the US I’m not sure what kind of laws will suddenly appear which might affect privacy and security of any kind of software from there. That’s why I decided to avoid them as much as possible.

      I will certainly go through your suggestions and have a look if I should change stuff (apart from proton, I’m sure about changing this one).

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        Just because something is developed in the USA does not mean it will follow authoritarianism. These projects are open source, and many USA based open source projects are fighting back against this stuff. Besides, the internet is the internet, and these open source projects will live on beyond any USA law. This is the very point of the licensing. Having said that, I do agree with you on the RHEL/Fedora side of things.

        I’m not sure about the Debian legal ties, I’ll have to look further into that since you didn’t give me anything to reference. Still, the key point here is open source, which means you can review the source code and security experts will, too. Signal is also a USA based company; France and Sweden are trying to force backdoors on them, yet Signal has vehemently said, “No. Fuck Off.” So, clearly it’s not just the USA doing shitty things.

        I get that the current political situation in this shithole country is absolutely horrifying, but that does not immediately mean that the entire population of the country is with the fascists by default. Starlink being used for election purpose should be the number one red flag indicator that the citizens of the USA did not actually vote for what’s happening and it was manipulated. Because of the fascist playbook and money, it is difficult for the proletariat to do much without seriously violent actions.

        I just don’t agree with your sentiment on this US jurisdiction idea when it comes to open source, non-profit projects. And to be clear, it’s OK that we might disagree. I’m just providing discourse with a healthy dose of skepticism.

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          There’s a lot going on in the US that I never thought would happen and it just goes on and on and on. Every day I read something that scares me even more.

          To me it’s not that absurd that open source projects could be affected. Wouldn’t be the first time they tried (EARN IT Act or how often they tried to get backdoors in encrypted data https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/a-brief-history-of-the-nsa-attempting-to-insert-backdoors-into-encrypted-data )

          To me it seems possible.

          Yes, it’s open source, yes, it can be taken elsewhere and developed outside of the USA. It’s just that I’m extra cautious right now.

          I agree with you, it’s not only the USA which is problematic, but currently the US is the country with the most power doing „shitty things“. That’s why you get extra bonus points.