• Alphane Moon@lemmy.worldOPM
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    5 days ago

    Not surprising the both AMD and Intel have given up on the consumer high-end segment.

    At the prices in that segment, people are going to go with Nvidia almost by default.

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      5 days ago

      I hope this is just fake news, because Intel has the foundation, their Battlemage is pretty damn good. They just need to scale it up a bit more. I don’t care if it’s flagship levels or not, if they can squeeze out RTX 5070Ti or RX 9070 XT performance out of ARC card and it would be awesome.

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      5 days ago

      eh, 9070 XT is only a little bit slower than the top of the line 7900 XTX. In my mind it’s still high-end, 5090 should get it’s own super-ultra-high end designation lol

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      5 days ago

      I don’t think AMD has. My understanding was that the next gen UDNA architecture has the full range. It’s meant to launch next year.

      The two RDNA 4 cards were just to have something out at the same time as the 5000 series.

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        5 days ago

        I bought the RX 9070 XT and it’s freaking amazing. Like, who gives a shit if NVIDIA holds the performance crown when their cards are entirely unobtainable and so expensive they are out of reach of most people? Fuck that metric. On top of that they have missing ROPs, melting power connector because they run so close to its power limit and they keep denying that shit for second generation now.

        And don’t be mistaken, RX 9070 XT is a VERY high performing card, often beating RTX 5080. They also improved FSR4 to levels that mostly beat DLSS3 CNN in terms of quality which is huge. They improved ray tracing basically on par with NVIDIA and AFMF or AMD Fluid Motion Frames is AMAZING framegen tech. I love it so much and it just works in all games and it works really well. RDNA4 was a huge leap for AMD.

        Not to mention Radeon software is SIGNIFICANTLY better than NVIDIAs stupid control panel from year 2006 and same goes for new NVIDIA App. It’s just such a stupid piece of software with missing settings available in old panel and also with dumbest overclocking panel I’ve ever seen.

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          5 days ago

          I will probably be buying a 9070 XT to replace my 3080. I don’t need to be sold on its capabilities.

          It is categorically not beating a 5080. It does however go toe to toe with the 5070 ti.

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            5 days ago

            I went from RTX 3080 to RX 9070 XT and it’s a huge upgrade. I didn’t quite expect it to be this large. I know it’s not beating RTX 5080 in all of them there are some and some where it’s very close. Which is crazy considering the 600-800€ gap that it had back then. It has now fallen to “just” 400€ gap, but I can’t justify a whole low-mid end graphic card value for few more frames. It’s insane.

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            5 days ago

            It has few annoying elements like the stupid Ai tab, but beyond that it’s actually really nice and powerful. I especially like Tuning panel so I don’t need MSI Afterburner anymore as separate app to overclock it. It’s just so much more responsive panel and has bunch of settings that are very useful, like Radeon Chill if I want to keep power consumption down without really compromising framerate or the AFMF is insane feature. Works in every game, makes motion so much smoother while I can’t really notice any input lag unlike with FSR3 FrameGen that always creates massive input lag that totally ruins the whole “higher fps number” thing. And I really like the in-game overlay that allows me to see entire Radeon panel within the game if needed.

            I’ve been last on Radeon back when HD7950 was relevant and have dealt with stupid ancient NVIDIA Control Panel ever since. NVIDIA App most certainly didn’t impress me because it’s dumbed down and stupid, but at least applying settings in it doesn’t take 5 seconds anymore which is a plus I guess.

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            5 days ago

            In a local retail computer store. I see there is plenty of them in online stores here in Europe (using Geizhals as reference) and the price has dropped a bit. I did overpay for it a bit, but eh fuck it, I can live with that as I got it basically 2 days after the launch. I couldn’t justify 1600€ for RTX 5070Ti which is why I never went for it. If RTX 5080 was 1000€ I’d still go for it. For the price NVIDIA is asking now and back then, no fucking chance.

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            5 days ago

            I bought mine in a Newegg bundle a week after launch with a PSU. Sold the PSU separately for the difference.

            Those bundles weren’t there on launch day, I just happened to be looking for other stuff when I found it. Only bundle in stock. Didn’t think it would actually ship, but it did.

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        4 days ago

        Yeah, AMD basically said “tactical retreat” and tried to make a popular midrange card to get market share back up.

        I don’t think they have long term plans to stay midrange only. They’ll keep working and once they have something that can compete, they’ll launch it.