• yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 hours ago

    And every armed conflict in the world would end if everyone put down their guns right this instant.

    This is actually true. There’s an important lesson about human nature hidden somewhere in this sarcastic sentence.

    The reason we need to get rid of capitalism is that it empowers people’s most horrible greedy impulses. However, that’s precisely because people are horrible and greedy. If people were saints, then capitalism wouldn’t matter because nobody would do dumb shit like buy pickup trucks or eat meat.

    Again, long before the advent of any abstract “structures” and economic theories, before Hollywood and global communication networks, when humans were still living on random islands, they behaved like total and utter morons. They were not rational. Because 90% of humans are — and again, this is an empirical fact — incapable of moral deliberation.

    That’s why we had slavery for 10,000 years. That’s why people torture billions of sentient animals to death in abattoirs every year to eat their carcasses. That’s why Donald Trump won the last election.

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      15 hours ago

      Because 90% of humans are — and again, this is an empirical fact — incapable of moral deliberation.

      90% of humans. Really. Do you have a source for this claim?

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        4 hours ago

        Yes. Of course. But I get the sense that you guys are in culty MAGA-mode right now. If you actually seriously want to engage with this fascinating research topic in good faith, feel free to message me.

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          3 hours ago
          • asks for a source to a claim
          • gets called maga
          • ???

          I’ll have you know I despise trump.

          Oh, but since you brought up good faith. In response to simply asking for a source, you attacked my character, tried to gaslight me into thinking I’m in the wrong, and then tried to move the topic into private DMs so nobody else can see it and so you can look like the adult here. This wasn’t even a real offer though, because nobody is going to politely DM you after getting their character attacked out of nowhere like that.

          The fact that you’re not willing to publicly show your source about the things you’re claiming in bold are empirical facts tells me that you don’t actually have a source, and are in fact the one not engaging in good faith.

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      15 hours ago

      funny you keep coming back to slavery when so much of it was justified by claiming huge chunks of people were, empirically factually, incapable of being fully human

      standing in the middle of a system that incentivizes, necessitates even, that people act against our collective shared interest; a system that, half through deliberate intention and half through the selective pressure of market forces, makes sure they have just enough education to be profitable workers – and to say, “We’ve always been this stupid. Just innate, innit?”, well you’re either missing the forest for the trees or for whatever reason you’d rather believe some people can just be written off altogether.