What? I’ve gotten RDP, VNC, and SPICE working fine on Wayland. And if you need app-level displays then waypipe worked fine the last time I used it. I’ve been running Proxmox containers with Wayland just fine, too.
Any particular use case that benefits from what Xorg was uniquely capable of networking-wise (network transparency, afaik?) of is quite niche and development effort twoards that end has always reflected that!
I’ve not been able to find the git or project repo/writeup of “Wayland on Wires”. Though i do vaguely feel like I saw it somewhere.
But I suppose me and my ongoing computer science degree and shared family hobby of IT simply hasn’t reached Real Linux User levels yet. I must sharpen my Bash Blade for another 1000 years…
Since that’s the case, I suppose I must defer to your Infinitely Endless Wisdom as a True Linux User. I beg of thee, answer my Most Piteous Questions…:
What do you use Xorg’s networking functionality for?
@solardirus Yes, RDP, VNC, and SPICE do not USE X redirection so naturally they will work fine, but try this, while you are on one server using wayland, ssh -Y server into another, and then launch xsol or xclock or synaptic or any other X-application.
If I had a nickel for every time someone ignored me just to say something I directly address…
You are pretty blatantly referencing X11 Forwarding / Network Transparency.
I can’t reasonably assume you actually read anything I say, but to briefly reiterate:
Checkout Waypipe. Here’s a direct quote from the README:
Waypipe is a proxy for Wayland clients. It forwards Wayland messages and serializes changes to shared memory buffers over a single socket. This makes application forwarding similar to ssh -X feasible.
Have you tried this? What is disatisfactory about it? And if all else fails, is there really ANY problem with simply using VNC/etc? What real-world problem do you have that is uniquely solved with this?
What? I’ve gotten RDP, VNC, and SPICE working fine on Wayland. And if you need app-level displays then waypipe worked fine the last time I used it. I’ve been running Proxmox containers with Wayland just fine, too.
Any particular use case that benefits from what Xorg was uniquely capable of networking-wise (network transparency, afaik?) of is quite niche and development effort twoards that end has always reflected that!
I’ve not been able to find the git or project repo/writeup of “Wayland on Wires”. Though i do vaguely feel like I saw it somewhere.
But I suppose me and my ongoing computer science degree and shared family hobby of IT simply hasn’t reached Real Linux User levels yet. I must sharpen my Bash Blade for another 1000 years…
Since that’s the case, I suppose I must defer to your Infinitely Endless Wisdom as a True Linux User. I beg of thee, answer my Most Piteous Questions…:
@solardirus Yes, RDP, VNC, and SPICE do not USE X redirection so naturally they will work fine, but try this, while you are on one server using wayland, ssh -Y server into another, and then launch xsol or xclock or synaptic or any other X-application.
If I had a nickel for every time someone ignored me just to say something I directly address…
You are pretty blatantly referencing X11 Forwarding / Network Transparency.
I can’t reasonably assume you actually read anything I say, but to briefly reiterate:
Checkout Waypipe. Here’s a direct quote from the README:
Have you tried this? What is disatisfactory about it? And if all else fails, is there really ANY problem with simply using VNC/etc? What real-world problem do you have that is uniquely solved with this?