I’m not in the US, but it seems to me that the Republicans keep breaking norms and procedures, including politicising impeachment and ignoring illegal, immoral and plain bad conduct.

They also seem to be fine with not applying the same standard across the isle.

On the other hand, either Democrats follow new precedent, with even more devolving, or they keep the old decorum and get their asses kicked by Republican foul play.

What ways out of this spiral are there?

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    Saying to punch Nazis is against the rules on the new 196.

    inb4 drama

    No, the ban wasn’t about anything else. Drag has direct statements from multiple mods that it was about violence against Nazis, not about anything else. The admin is not the mod team. The admin’s views are not the reason for the mod team’s actions

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        Drag thought it would be redundant to include that one, since it just restates a more specific part of what you already said. Plus drag would have to go edit the image again to include it for no extra information, and give everyone more to read. Drag is thankful however that you did send that message, and drag has posted it elsewhere when other users argued the 196 ban was for “promoting suicide”, which didn’t happen, and as you say here, wasn’t part of the decision.

        But thank you anyway for the extra context and direct confirmation.

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      If you really expect people to believe you’re not the troll that you are, maybe don’t bring your bullshit into discussions that have absolutely nothing to do with it.

      Your little “inb4 drama” is exactly the type of shit you do to stir the pot. It’s entirely unnecessary and extremely disruptive and you have a very bad reputation of doing exactly this.

      I dare you to go one week without turning the topic of discussion into something that involves you being a victim.

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        We are having a discussion about whether society allows people to say to punch nazis. Drag shared a relevant piece of information about a community on this platform that bans the behaviour. Drag predicted the same old people would come onto this thread to spread lies about drag, and put drag’s response to them in spoilers. What do you know, you and spujb came to harass drag just as expected. If you wanted to “gotcha” drag, you could have just not replied, and drag would have looked the fool. But now everyone can see that just as expected, you couldn’t resist coming to start an argument that has nothing to do with punching nazis.

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          You were banned for telling people to kill themselves. You’re a troll. Everyone knows this.

          And private message me again with your nonsense and I’m reporting you to your home instance admins.

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      To clarify, this user didn’t just say “punch Nazis”; this user told a disabled person to commit an act of gun violence that would most likely result in death. Some mods have called that encouraging suicide by cop. Other mods have simply said that inciting a specific act of violence is against the rules. In every instance, though, it’s been modded, because it’s disgusting behavior.

      Just clearing up the lies because I am sick of it.

      cc @[email protected]

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        This user did say “punch nazis”, and here’s the proof:

        If you want to decide why drag is banned from 196, then apply to be a mod of 196.

        You are formally requested to leave drag alone. The next time you reply to drag to spread lies about this, drag will report you for harassment and speak with the Blahaj and .cafe admins.

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            Thank you. There’s still another falsehood in your comment, though. You said “Some mods have called that encouraging suicide by cop.”, but as far as drag knows, only Ada has said that. Ada isn’t a mod, she’s an admin. She has no say in 196’s rules, so her opinion isn’t relevant to whether 196 allows nazi-punching. She decided not to ban drag from the instance for that comment, and drag doesn’t think she’d be happy to hear you’re harassing drag over it.

            Drag is willing to have a discussion if you’re willing to stay factually accurate. But let’s keep this on topic to the Nazi punching issue. If you want to talk about Ada’s opinions, let’s do that in private messages to avoid disrupting this thread any more.