I’m from Vietnam. I’ve been in the UK for 10 years now. When I met my English husband 13 years ago at 19 I knew 0 English. We communicated using machine translation. So that’s when I started learning English. Fast forward to present day after immersion, living in an English speaking country, formal study, etc. and I’d say my writing and listening (understanding) are good, but my speaking and reading are still bad. I kind of gave up on trying to become fluent at this point.

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    I agree. Although I think it’s important to shift what’s good enough and to have empathy for those who struggle. A lot of racism in Europe is focused around immigrants “not trying hard enough”, like refusing to speak to people that have an accent. “Why can’t they just learn? It’s not that hard.” It actually is that hard, Cathrine. Try navigating Swedish bureaucracy with your Duolingo food-ordering skills and you’ll see. Some people won’t ever learn proper grammar and tiny nuances and that’s okay, you can have a full conversation anyway.