Dropsitenews published a list of websites Facebook uses to train its AI on. Multiple Lemmy instances are on the list as noticed by user BlueAEther

Hexbear is on there too. Also Facebook is very interested in people uploading their massive dongs to lemmynsfw.

Full article here.

Link to the full leaked list download: Meta leaked list pdf

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    Got any citations about this being illegal? If it is then the whole ActivityPub protocol is in trouble.

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      [Insert any copyright law you’re domicile to] Consult your lawyer about copyright violations of federated content. I am not yours to violate.

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        Have there been any relevant lawsuits you could point me to? Vaguely waving in the air and declaring “copyright” is not helpful.

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            That article’s proposal is incompatible with how the Fediverse works. It proposes licensing models for viewing, printing, and copying, but all of this hinges on the content being delivered in a protected format that enforces those restrictions. It describes using encrypted “software envelopes” that check with a central server for authorization before allowing access. If content is freely accessible without technical restrictions, then legally, it’s considered published and available to the public.

            I am never going to ask you for a license to read your posts. Go ahead, sue me.

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              If content is freely accessible without technical restrictions, then legally, it’s considered published and available to the public.

              That’s not how copyrighted content works. Consult your lawyer.

              I am never going to ask you for a license to read your posts. Go ahead, sue me.

              Thank you for your permission to send you to court.

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                That’s not how copyrighted content works. Consult your lawyer.

                Yeah, you really do need to brush up on the law here.

                Copyright has nothing to do with reading works visible in public. If I put up a billboard or a poster that’s visible in a public space I can’t demand a license fee from any passer-by who glances over and reads it. That’s what you’re doing when you’re posting comments on the Fediverse, you’re publishing them for the world to see.

                Thank you for your permission to send you to court.

                Did you think you needed permission to sue someone?

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                  You’re not on a physical billboard or a poster. You are on the internet still reading my copyrighted content on my instances without direct approval from me to fetch my copyrighted content. You already expressed you will not comply with my authorization to read my content on my instance without my direct licensing agreement.
                  Brush up on consulting a lawyer b4 you faux pas further.

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                    Actually, I’m reading it on my instance, at fedia.io.

                    You’re on ani.social. When you post a comment your ani.social instance sends a copy of that comment to the instance at programming.dev, which is where the community [email protected] is hosted. The programming.dev instance has a list of other instances that have users with subscriptions to [email protected], and it automatically forwards a copy of that comment to all the subscribed instances. That includes fedia.io, since I am on that instance and I’m subscribed to [email protected]. So when I log in to fedia.io it has a copy of your comment already stored locally for me to see. This all happens automatically when you post your comment, you initiated that chain of actions yourself.

                    Maybe before you brush up on the law you should brush up on how the Fediverse operates.