• Pistcow@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    I mean, we could get rid of corporations and then there’d be no pseudo human to hide behind. Well, that’s by design.

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      Yeah, but then no one would risk starting any business. You would be a fool to start a corporation knowing that you, personally, were responsible for every tiny thing that might happen.

      Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. What we need is a corporate death penalty. Serious “devil in the details” there, but at some point the law has to say, “You done fucked up, too far, we’re taking you apart at the seams with a chainsaw.”

      No, you don’t get bought out like Equifax does every time they fuck up. You get disassembled into atoms. Investors, stock holders, etc., get their pennies on the dollar, if any are left.

      Speaking of laws, we need penalties that scale. As is, most penalties amount to “the cost of doing business”. FFS, they’re operating like retail looks at minor theft.

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        Plenty of people run sole proprietorships. The concept of the corporation is one of the worst things humans have produced.

        Make the board and executives agents of the company and personally responsible for the corporate entity. Make penalties scale as a percent of income. Or, save humanity and cut of the arm.

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          15 hours ago

          Sole proprietorships don’t make the unit you typed that on.

          And yes, scale penalties to gross. Not profit, because they’ll find ways to hide that shit. Example: Hollywood should be totally broke by now.

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    The USSR did a pretty good job killing it self off. Let’s not give Regan or bush that credit.

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      You own all the things. You know that this is because other people do all the work for you. In another country, you catch word that they took all the things from rich fucks like you and are trying to all work together to better their country. You’re afraid that the people who worked for all your stuff will hear of this and get ideas. You get the government to send the military to put a stop to that. Bonus, you can then also take some stuff in that country, getting you even more stuff.

      Yeah, capitalism has an incentive to kill all other economic systems.

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        That’s my point tho. It’s stupid people at every turn. Be it the rich or the workers or the government that doesn’t realize what they’re doing.

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          I know what you’re saying. The people at the top are just afraid of losing their shit, so they act on that fear rather than realizing that life would be better for them too. But that doesn’t make them not malicious, and should still be treated as adversaries. Because, never forget that for every 100 idiots, blinded by their own fear, there’s 1 asshole who knows exactly what they’re doing and will do anything to keep doing it.

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            I’d clarify it as people at the top are afraid of “undesirables” attaining anything similar to what they have, because then how can you easily show that they are, in fact, undesirable. But otherwise I agree with your post.

            At some point the drive to amass wealth doesn’t have anything to do with your own wants and instead is all about making sure others can’t have any. Pulling up the ladder behind them, so to speak.

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      We can’t look at systems or people as stupid, all too complex.

      My issue with capitalism is that eventually the rich purchase the very laws that reign them in.

      What to do? Hell I know.

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        I wholeheartedly disagree. The negativity in your comment is far more exploitable, after all.