Always used Seafile to backup all of my electronics. Then borgmatic and borgbase as my only remote backup for my entire server. Local backup on another drive every now and then.

Have been having trouble fixing up the latest version of Seafile in docker and I’ve gotten too busy to deal with it over and over.

And now I only have to deal with my own backup data. So Seafile isn’t so useful anymore.

Looking for information on other home server data backup flows.

At most 500Gb of usage is what I expect to idle around. Need integrity checks, best speeds and reputable service. The works, I know.

Looking for same annual pricing as borgbase (~80USD) or better of course.

Here are a couple I found:

  • Filen
  • Jottacloud
  • some Hetzner storage or something

Definetly need a CLI tool with syncing. Or some method for client side encryption backups.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    3·
    8 hours ago

    I use Veeam.
    The Agent is free amd can do integrity checks
    The B&R server can manage multiple systems has a steeper learning curve can be free (with a reduced featureset) or operated with a license.

    I use Veeam at home and at work and I quite love it.
    (And they recently started supporting Proxmox)

  • walden@wetshav.ingEnglish
    13·
    18 hours ago

    I’m not sure I fully grasp what you want, but Restic is excellent. I use a cronjob to back up on a schedule. It’s command line only. I think there’s a tool to make it a GUI but I haven’t tried it. They have a Docker image available but it’s weird, you have to pass commands to it, it runs, then shuts down when it’s done. I love Docker but that didn’t quite work for me.

    I use Backblaze B2 for storage, but any S3 will do. Restic supports all sorts of storage targets.

    Credentials and things go in an .env file, or you can put everything into the command line every time.

    When it’s time to restore things, you can fricken mount the whole backup you want and browse the files, copy and paste what you need, etc. That part is really cool to me.

    Backblaze is $5 or $6 USD per TB per month, so 500GB will be about $36USD a year.

    • ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Fun tip on restic for restoring or browsing snapshots. The restic mount command lets you mount your backups to your filesystem and that enables you to browse all your snapshots and all the files at different points in time all from your file manager. Then you can just drag and drop to restore files as needed.

      • walden@wetshav.ingEnglish
        1·
        3 hours ago

        I’ve never had to restore a backup (yet), but to me this is the best feature of Restic.

        I used Duplicati for a while (I think it was Duplicati, not Duplicacy) and although the backups seemed to work, I kept reading about people having trouble during the restore process.

        Restic is a slight chore to get set up with the environmental variables, figuring out which directories to “–ignore”, etc… but man once it’s set up it’s just great.

        • rekabis@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          3 hours ago

          I kept reading about people having trouble during the restore process.

          It is Duplicati, and IMHO restores work best if they aren’t restores-in-place. As in, dump the restores in a central location then drag-and-drop the data into place. Most of the issues I have heard of involve restoring data and settings back to where it originally was backed up from, and restoring directly back to those places - other than fully user-controlled directories, such as Documents or Photos - seems to be problematic.

          Other than that, I have been using it for nearly a decade and have done a number of restores - after total drive deaths, so not just accidentally deleted files - to great success.

          The downside is that tweaking backups from within the hidden C:\Users\[username]\AppData\ directory involves many days of whack-a-mole to exclude untouchable normally-in-use files so you don’t get scads of errors in the backup process. Plus, there are a fair number of entries in there that don’t really need backing up. But once you get that to settle down, it’s largely smooth it’s-set-so-forget-it sailing.

    • brewery@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      4 hours ago

      I also use restic for backups. I actually switched from Borg because it kept getting stuck and failing but couldn’t work out why. Not had issues with restic (so far, touch wood!).

      I use resticprofile with yaml configurations though (https://github.com/creativeprojects/resticprofile), which made it much easier for me to figure out.

      I use borgbase for offsite backups.

    • confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      9 hours ago

      I use rsync too. It’s older and from what I understand was designed at a time when data storage was much smaller so it may not be as fast as other backup options. It also doesn’t have encrypted backups like other backup options (I think).

      Rsync has been the most reliable option for me though. Every syncing option I’ve tried seems too complicated and breaks down every time I look away. Since my entire backup size is around 550gb and I’m not concerned with encrypted backups, I think rsync just works just fine.

      I even created my own tool that puts my rsync commands into easy to read/modify files so I can organize my most common transfers. I can easily backup my phone, HomeAssistant server, home server and computer to my two backup locations in a single alias or cronjob now.

      A bit of a pain to learning how to make proper backups that restore successfully every time, but once I figured it out, I’ve been very confident in my backup strategy.

    • TurkeyDurkey@piefed.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      8 hours ago

      Checking out alternatives to see if there might be a better solution compared to when I set up my server initially last year.

      • thelittleblackbird@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        8 hours ago

        I see, well if borg really ticks all checkbox es and you know how to use it I would explore any further.

        Sincerely, borgbackup is really a top solution with a lot of nice features

  • aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    17 hours ago

    I use Kopia to perform incremental encrypted backups (with some retention policy of up to two years) and store them on Backblaze B2, which is reasonably cheap.

  • slate@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    20 hours ago

    I really like duplicacy. It’s just a single executable you add to your path, then configure it to back up to basically any remote you want. I don’t even bother to run it in a container since it doesn’t have dependencies. Encrypted, compressed, deduplicated, incremental backups. The algorithm is pretty slick too. It can back up multiple machines to the same repository, and it’ll dedupe across them without any locks required.

    Duplicacy CLI is free, and there’s a front-end for a reasonable fee. I think $50 for the first year, then $10 for every subsequent year.

    For storage, you can just go with whatever is cheapest/easiest. I use a gdrive I’m paying for regardless for effectively free storage. But if I didn’t have that, Hetzner seems very appealing. I think it’s $4/mo for 1TB? Very reasonable, and you wouldn’t need to worry about api calls or chunk size / file count like you would with S3/B2/StorJ.

    • lankydryness@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      7 hours ago

      +1 on duplicity. I run it directly on the host, outside of my docker containers. Grabs the data from the different volumes for my Nextcloud etc, puts it all into an AWS infrequent access bucket. Costs me ~3$USD/month. Pretty simple. Runs on cron

    • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.todayEnglish
      3·
      13 hours ago

      +1 for Duplicacy (the GUI, as a container). Very worth it, IMO. Not only do I use it for my PC, I back up my server to my other server in another state with it. I also use it with Backblaze B2 (for very important files) which is slightly more than Hetzner ($6/TB). I haven’t run into any chunking issues and they don’t charge for API calls. Highly recommendated.