• 5too@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    You’re conflating work that needs to get done with work capitalists want done.

    Yes, someone needs to deal with sanitation. But we don’t need a capitalist to own the sanitation system to address this. It can be done in turn, for instance; or volunteers can be rewarded with non-necessity items.

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      1 day ago

      No, Im not. Do you think we can get enough volunteers who have the right skills to address sanitation issues?

      In most places no one owns the sewage system other than the state.

      There is a lot of work that no one would willingly do that is critical and requires a lot if hands on experience. The problem leftist ideologies face IRL is that so many require people who would choose to do extremely dangerous jobs with no realistic plan for how to account fir this.

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        23 hours ago

        Yes. Those jobs would provide more luxury lifestyle outside of the basic needs already. Keep rasing the pay until someone takes the job.

        Also the issue is that we think we’re too good to do those jobs, but we’re not above lowering everyone’s standards of living to the point that people have to jump in shit to survive? We can get people to take those jobs, but do we also need to stop judging people based on their career path. That’ll go a long way to fixing our nation.

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          22 hours ago

          If you are talking about higher pay you are talking about a different system than the one proposed. Their system has no economic inequality so no higher pay.

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            17 hours ago

            Even in a post scarcity world those who provide more for to society do receive greater accommodations. Captains and officers get larger rooms and houses. But until that reality is possible those who provide more for society should receive greater financial support. Not CEOs.