So don’t use it? How much or how little actual security secure boot provides is a topic that has been discussed to oblivion. I brought it up to make a point of how badly people are overreacting about the severity of this latest framework news.
I still have no idea what secure-boot really does and this was me turning the metaphorical secure-boot dial while checking the crowd to see whether they start gasping in horror.
Its not a backdoor, because secure boot was never about safety to begin with. Its just a piece of security theater, whose primary use is more control for microsoft. “Secure” boot only boots software signed with a microsoft key, thats the “security”. Microsoft also allows linux distributions to be signed, but nothing is technically stopping them from just refusing, for " security reasons", and on some systems secure boot cant be turned off. So it being bustable is a good thing. There are other ways to protect devices from physical access, but generally, if attackers have physical access to your computer, then its compromised, secure boot or not. Framework just didnt want to play along.
In a way its understandable: It looks flashy, “hackery” and is a complete departure from the Windows or Mac GUI which avoids an “uncanny valley” of usability. Also it is pretty easy to install (i would argue, even more easy than many mainstream distributions), couple that with the positive PR that it got by some Youtube people and you have a road to success for this distro.
they sponsored Omarchy and Hyprland. one a glorified dotfiles arch “distro” built by DHH who is pretty much a fascist and Hyprland a buggy neon mess of a WM built by a transphobic fascist.
So yeah, they’re not having a good time right now.
because they’re built by individuals who are those things. that’s the controversy. that’s it.
the whole thing is people are upset that Framework sponsored those things because they don’t like paying Framework for their machines who in turn then give money to people they feel are facists.
To me they give to a project that have individual that hold controversial opinion rather than to a controversial individual but I can understand the logic.
But tbh I would rather be pissed that a company would finnanve other while they sell their stuff for a premium price
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If you have secure boot off OR don’t have a bios password you are just as insecure as this “vulnerability” would make you
So 90% of the self-proclaimed “power users”.
I feel attacked
But secure-boot is so tedious to deal with.
So don’t use it? How much or how little actual security secure boot provides is a topic that has been discussed to oblivion. I brought it up to make a point of how badly people are overreacting about the severity of this latest framework news.
I still have no idea what secure-boot really does and this was me turning the metaphorical secure-boot dial while checking the crowd to see whether they start gasping in horror.
I believe it only means “I paid Microsoft to get a certificate”, so it does absolutely nothing for security.
This has been fixed. Check rest of the article.
mmwas placed for an legitimate purpose.A legitimate backdoor is still a backdoor. If you have security measures and a way to bypass them, you don’t have security measures.
Its not a backdoor, because secure boot was never about safety to begin with. Its just a piece of security theater, whose primary use is more control for microsoft. “Secure” boot only boots software signed with a microsoft key, thats the “security”. Microsoft also allows linux distributions to be signed, but nothing is technically stopping them from just refusing, for " security reasons", and on some systems secure boot cant be turned off. So it being bustable is a good thing. There are other ways to protect devices from physical access, but generally, if attackers have physical access to your computer, then its compromised, secure boot or not. Framework just didnt want to play along.
Can’t you add your own signing key or the distro can. I know you can remove the existing keys.
But a “backdoor” which is swung wide open if you don’t secure it isn’t really a backdoor. It’s more akin to an open window.
Fixed on bios, but from what I see, the dbx part is still missing in some models. They are working on it at least
Political drama ?
I think he’s referring to framework financially supporting omarchy and hyprland.
Yeah omarchy being successful kinda depress me
In a way its understandable: It looks flashy, “hackery” and is a complete departure from the Windows or Mac GUI which avoids an “uncanny valley” of usability. Also it is pretty easy to install (i would argue, even more easy than many mainstream distributions), couple that with the positive PR that it got by some Youtube people and you have a road to success for this distro.
Last I poked at it, it had no Live environment. I really how it got so popular if people can’t even try it before wiping their machine. VMs?
Why? Just ride the lightning and live the hacker lifestyle!
(Just kidding… perhaps those people have an image of their Windows installation on some external HDD)
they sponsored Omarchy and Hyprland. one a glorified dotfiles arch “distro” built by DHH who is pretty much a fascist and Hyprland a buggy neon mess of a WM built by a transphobic fascist.
So yeah, they’re not having a good time right now.
But what is left for me to use? I only use products that primagen talks about. /s #l33t
??? It s software? How it s facist or transphobic of whatever. If tomorrow linus start doing bad stuff I won’t say don’t use Linux???
because they’re built by individuals who are those things. that’s the controversy. that’s it.
the whole thing is people are upset that Framework sponsored those things because they don’t like paying Framework for their machines who in turn then give money to people they feel are facists.
To me they give to a project that have individual that hold controversial opinion rather than to a controversial individual but I can understand the logic.
But tbh I would rather be pissed that a company would finnanve other while they sell their stuff for a premium price
If the individual is the only one in charge of the project, and controls the money, there really isnt a difference.