Anime and nerd fans often call Light Yagami “evil” because of his lies, manipulation, and gaslighting, but rarely apply that same criticism to superheroes—especially Superman. Clark Kent does the same things Light does, just less skillfully. Maintaining a secret identity means constantly lying and manipulating people. Superman justifies it by claiming moral superiority, but if his son Jonathan were a superhero who lied and manipulated his parents the same way Light Yagami does Clark would be furious—even though he’s guilty of the same thing.

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    he uses the deathnote in an infantile manner and his sense of justice is juvenile.

    Light was a teenager. He’s always lived an easy sheltered life under the care of his parents. He’s lacking any real life experience. In my mind, his juvenile sense of justice is right in line with someone of that immaturity especially given the power he got from the Death Note. We get to see a great contrast when Light’s father is given the power of the Death Note, and immediately chooses to cut his own life in half to get the eyes. The father understands self sacrifice and paying the price to protect those he loves.

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      Light was a teenager. He’s always lived an easy sheltered life under the care of his parents. He’s lacking any real life experience. In my mind, his juvenile sense of justice is right in line with someone of that immaturity especially given the power he got from the Death Note.

      sure thing. It’s just combining that with the “I smelt the onion in his farts, that breed of onion only grows in the nagasaki region” style writing of “smart, observant people” makes the show kinda silly , while the tone is suuuuper serious about everything.

      I watched it out of curiosity and to practice my spanish (netflix dub). In a way I’m glad I gave it a miss in its heyday when I was at uni.

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        sure thing. It’s just combining that with the “I smelt the onion in his farts, that breed of onion only grows in the nagasaki region” style writing of “smart, observant people” makes the show kinda silly , while the tone is suuuuper serious about everything.

        I don’t think that’s out-of-place either for the story. Much like the difference between Light and his father, the story is illustrating “book smart” from “street smart”.

        Like so much other modern fiction, Death Note is a variation on the Hero’s Journey trope. In this case, the hero is a composite between L, Near, and Mello.

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          the story is illustrating “book smart” from “street smart”.

          who’s who? I thought Light and L were fairly similar in their types of intelligence and both felt book smart.

          Death Note is a variation on the Hero’s Journey trope

          how? It just seemed like a typical “antagonist and protagonist are mirrors” with a villain protagonist in Light.

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            the story is illustrating “book smart” from “street smart”.

            who’s who? I thought Light and L were fairly similar in their types of intelligence and both felt book smart.

            Light = Book Smart
            Light’s Father = Street Smart

            Death Note is a variation on the Hero’s Journey trope

            how? It just seemed like a typical “antagonist and protagonist are mirrors” with a villain protagonist in Light.

            Hero’s Journey is so common, I too, would consider it “typical”.

            Combine L, Near, and Mello all as one entity “the hero”. How that composite travels through the story I see it well mapping against the hero’s journey. Another portion of the variation is that the story primarily follows Light/Kira, which is the antagonist, not the hero.

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              Hero’s journey :

              So, Light goes through call to adventure, supernatural aid, and threshold guardians? Ok.

              All the characters go through “challenges and temptations” but aside from Light not going for the Shinigami’s eyes, they generally tend to cave to whatever temptations they’re presented with. I assume

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              L’s literal death and replacement with Melo

              Is the death & rebirth and transformation. I don’t see the atonement, return nor the gift of the goddess. Also, I thought the hero’s journey had “visit to the underworld” as part of the abyss, and also a voyage to a strange land which again, feels missing.

              I appreciate you sharing your point of view though.

              who’s who? I thought Light and L were fairly similar in their types of intelligence and both felt book smart.

              Light = Book Smart
              Light’s Father = Street Smart

              ah yeah, that makes sense