In this case, it might not involve the surveillance company selling or sharing anything. All an insurance adjuster has to do is knock on doors in the area and ask the home owners if they are willing to share any video footage they have.
And yes, people do this all the time. I work in this industry.
I really hate to stand on the side of the data hoarding conglomerates, but there’s a significant chance they were not involved in the release of that video.
Just to be clear in most places it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street (or your neighbors’ houses). Not that this has been enforced at all. But if somebody wanted to pursue you legally for that they could.
Usually it’s a misinterpretation of the law, they are not meant to interfere with security and law enforcement. There’s always exceptions, usually it’s how they trigger or store the data. If it’s automatically wiped, usually no laws have been broken for example.
Don’t know about most places but regarding Germany, OP is correct. It’s verboten to film property of neighbours, public places or places shared with neighbours with your statically installed surveillance camera. You have to get consent of filming neighbours and you have to put up signs informing persons like delivery drivers that they’re getting filmed. That’s what my short search resulted in.
What country? I’m sure there’s exceptions that you don’t know about, the laws normally don’t disallow their use, it’s in how the data is stored.
A security system that doesn’t record, but is watched by someone would be legal anywhere for example. Just the fact that there’s one, means sweet fuck all.
Your link completely refutes what you’re saying lol
The legality of video recording hinges on the concept of a “reasonable expectation of privacy.” You are permitted to record video of your own property and public spaces visible from your property, such as sidewalks and the street in front of your house.
Maybe try reading it next time “compliance expert”
That only applies if you aren’t recording audio as well.
The article is just a general overview of specifically Ring cameras and not specific to any one state or other recording devices. In my state for instance it is also illegal to be able to see license plates from personally owned security cameras, though we have Flock cameras here so yeah…
Why do so many people on Lemmy just really need a “gotcha”?
That only applies if you aren’t recording audio as well.
Reasonable expectation of privacy applies to video recording, audio recording, and still photography. You can be in a public space having a private conversation if you can reasonably expect no one would be able to hear it, but you can’t have a conversation in front of a plainly visible surveillance camera and then claim you were being eavesdropped on. You don’t even truly need to “consent” to being recorded, you just have to have knowledge that it is happening.
That’s also not what you said, your original comment was “it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street”.
In my state for instance it is also illegal to be able to see license plates from personally owned security cameras
I’d love to see a law on the books anywhere that says this. License plates do not have more rights than people. By “compliance expert” did you actually mean that you’re a cop? Usually cops are the ones going around spreading legal misinformation like this.
Why do so many people on Lemmy just really need a “gotcha”?
You were so confident that you were correct that you brazenly posted something that contradicted your misinformation without reading it.
In this case, it might not involve the surveillance company selling or sharing anything. All an insurance adjuster has to do is knock on doors in the area and ask the home owners if they are willing to share any video footage they have.
And yes, people do this all the time. I work in this industry.
I really hate to stand on the side of the data hoarding conglomerates, but there’s a significant chance they were not involved in the release of that video.
Just to be clear in most places it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street (or your neighbors’ houses). Not that this has been enforced at all. But if somebody wanted to pursue you legally for that they could.
What places?
Usually it’s a misinterpretation of the law, they are not meant to interfere with security and law enforcement. There’s always exceptions, usually it’s how they trigger or store the data. If it’s automatically wiped, usually no laws have been broken for example.
Don’t know about most places but regarding Germany, OP is correct. It’s verboten to film property of neighbours, public places or places shared with neighbours with your statically installed surveillance camera. You have to get consent of filming neighbours and you have to put up signs informing persons like delivery drivers that they’re getting filmed. That’s what my short search resulted in.
Where I live for instance. Like I said it isn’t enforced.
What country? I’m sure there’s exceptions that you don’t know about, the laws normally don’t disallow their use, it’s in how the data is stored.
A security system that doesn’t record, but is watched by someone would be legal anywhere for example. Just the fact that there’s one, means sweet fuck all.
A lot of it depends on if your state is single party or not.
Also you need to chill.
That applies to audio… not video recordings mate.
Why are you telling me to chill? Because I used a bloody swear word…?
It applies to both.
Yes and because you need to chill.
No… your link even specifies that….
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It’s the internet, people can swear dude.
Your link completely refutes what you’re saying lol
Maybe try reading it next time “compliance expert”
That only applies if you aren’t recording audio as well.
The article is just a general overview of specifically Ring cameras and not specific to any one state or other recording devices. In my state for instance it is also illegal to be able to see license plates from personally owned security cameras, though we have Flock cameras here so yeah…
Why do so many people on Lemmy just really need a “gotcha”?
Reasonable expectation of privacy applies to video recording, audio recording, and still photography. You can be in a public space having a private conversation if you can reasonably expect no one would be able to hear it, but you can’t have a conversation in front of a plainly visible surveillance camera and then claim you were being eavesdropped on. You don’t even truly need to “consent” to being recorded, you just have to have knowledge that it is happening.
That’s also not what you said, your original comment was “it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street”.
I’d love to see a law on the books anywhere that says this. License plates do not have more rights than people. By “compliance expert” did you actually mean that you’re a cop? Usually cops are the ones going around spreading legal misinformation like this.
You were so confident that you were correct that you brazenly posted something that contradicted your misinformation without reading it.