Hi everyone, we’ve been working on Safebox, an open-source framework that helps you install, manage, and access self-hosted applications such as Home Assistant, Nextcloud, and Jellyfin ect. Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows (supporting both x86 and ARM64 architectures, even Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi hardwares also tested). It manages domain and subdomain setup, Let’s Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, and reverse proxy (nginx). It also includes a WireGuard-based remote access feature and a geo-redundant backup system (currently in development). The project is in beta, and we’re looking for people interested in testing and sharing feedback. All information about Safebox and beta testing can be found in our Discord channel. Try it using Docker: docker run --rm -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock safebox/framework-scheduler
Then open: http://localhost:8080/
Links: Website: https://safebox.network/ GitHub: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J
We’d really appreciate any feedback or ideas for improvement.
Alright so I’ll ask a hardball question or two. What precisely are you offering that isn’t just repackaged install scripts and a wireguard wrapper?
What is your / your teams background in software security? The implication of the name and your “branding” are selling a lot - what outside of docker and wireguard are you bringing to the table. On that note: why docker?
Further - you are paywalling remote access… When your platform is utilizing wireguard.
Netbird (one of many examples) doesn’t even do that… What’s the reasoning?
I have more but let’s start there.
I won’t delve into the debate of open-source and financing, and I don’t necessarily throw the stone when I hear subscriptions is the plan, so for your sake I just ask:
Who are you people, and is your long term business plan as open as the software?
We’re just a family working together in our spare time. We want to make self-hosted web hosting easier to start and easier to use for everyone. We don’t have a business plan yet, we just want to build something useful and see what people think of it. Are you assuming it’s not open source because of the github page? We used Gitea before, and we’re moving everything over from there, that’s why it may look a bit empty right now.
Thank you for answering. No there was no underlying assumption on the open source.
Go look at the code in github. It’s one person, and it’s just bash scripts.
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Hmm, you might be right, it looks like there are plans for a premium subscription service with pay walled features after the beta is over.
Hard pass.
I don’t think they’re doing a lot of disguising? They openly introduced themselves and asked for feedback lol
Thanks, yes we’re looking for early users and feedback
In which way does it differ from Yunohost?
They will have a paid tier after beta, also it’s deployed with docker only. It’s a shame, it does look quite clean.
€10 a month even though you’re hosting things yourself on your own hardware.
To be fair, the pro plan is for the non-local stuff, which is at least understandable as domains and resolution services are non-free.
Also ongoing development takes resources. Seems like a reasonable approach.
I say this as someone who absolutely despises subscriptions.
They should clarify it. If these 3 points are just offering an easier way to do it, then fine. If they block these features in general when you want to manage it yourself, then screw it. I had one self hosted software, which blocked remote access even when you use your own reverse proxy. At least it was a one time payment.
From their FAQ:
What is the difference between the Basic and the Pro plan? The Basic (free) plan includes local access, a full suite of applications, and encrypted backups to local devices. The Pro (€10/month) plan provides remote access via custom domains, geo-redundant backups across locations, and unlimited subdomain support.
Thanks! That’s a mistake, the pro version is currently completely free in beta.
Yep, two reasons I’m out.
The main difference is that Safebox is software that runs on any operating system with a single command using docker. There’s no need to use terminals and commands later on. Like Yunohost, you can install and manage self-hosted apps with it, but it also includes geo-redundant backup and remote access features, all in one interface.
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