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(translated) Everyone has a phone. Whether it’s an iPhone, where you can’t install a better YouTube Music client without ads, or an Android, where you have pre-installed apps from three different manufacturers plus ads for new phones popping up as notifications. Anyone who reads my articles regularly knows what I’m talking about. Today, after a very long time, we’re going to review a phone from Google, on which I installed GrapheneOS.

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  • Cyberwolf@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    What a weak line of argumentation. Hopes and dreams don’t matter on the face of reality.

    There is a reason why investigative journalists, activists and whistleblowers use GrapheneOS, and it is the only OS that is recommended for such use cases. It’s the only OS that has the receipts to prove their are resistant to remote penetration breaches from the likes of Pegasus and common evil maidens like Celebrite.

    There are no high-risk personas using microG OSes. The ones who did are now dead.

    You’re free to use your insecure and outdated OS of choice that allows you to feel good about using the equally insecure MicroG. Just stop pretending it is a viable choice for the majority of consumers, who don’t want to have to throw away their phones because they got infected by a swarm spam bot that also drained their bank account.

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      Yes and this is indeed the target population of GrapheneOS, people with extremely high security needs. And that’s great. But my point is that such efforts come with compromises and in the case of GrapheneOS it has led to a reduced level of user friendliness for regular normal users. Which is fine, it’s all just choices. Because of those choices, GrapheneOS is not the best option in terms of deGoogling, others are better. Again this ok, you can never do everything at the same time

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        What compromise are you doing with GrapheneOS+Google services that you aren’t making with microG? In my experience the sandboxed version of Play Services works much better than MicroG, with the added security of using an android native service developed by Google themselves.

        You can argue “MicroG isn’t Google” but it actually is since it’s just a bunch of Google libraries with some FOSS costing on top. And again, you’re more likely to get your phone remotely hacked by a silly exploit that was patched months ago but still got you because instead of GrapheneOS you decided to use some other security-void like Calyx, LineageOS or /e/OS.