I wish we could get such policies. At the very least there should be codes that wealthy people that leave to avoid taxes will be barred from doing any business in the US, which should extend to global partners that choose to do business with them if they then wish to expand to the US, nope you partnered with asshole McGee after they ran away so fuck off. It could be done, it would just require the agents and resources to do so.

But just as our elected officials won’t vote against their own interests, they will defend the interests of the robber barons that pay their real salary in bribes, which is effectively legal post citizens united, so nothing can change under the current system, a new one would need to be made in its place.

I’m all for chasing them away.

If taxation is what they won’t accept, They always saw your nation as something to be exploited and sucked dry, which means they were never on your society’s side, which with such resources makes them incalculably dangerous.

If they fail the taxation test, the nation should be relieved when they run away.

Oh I think the capitalist “grown ups” as you say only concerned with quarterly GDP and their own individual hoards in charge are doing fine on their own. Don’t you?

They don’t need some idiot commie child as you say like me getting in the way of this great society’s trajectory. This bull is loose!

I lost, we leftists lost, and since the capitalists are destroying the very COMMUNal climate we rely on from one breath to the next, it’s too late for us to ever turn it around, as civilization hangs by a thread on the easy baby “just don’t shit where you sleep” climate mode we enjoyed and are eviscerating as we speak in the name of year over year metastasis.

What does winning feel like? Is it awesome? Do you feel victorious in your capitalist society?

(for me the main one are the tankie scum devs)

This right here is the crux of the problem and why the problem goes back so much further than the design and algorithms of platforms. We teach kids to focus on individual achievement, to celebrate the self, and we don’t teach empathy, something that needs to be taught young and can easily be taught but the west increasingly considers weakness and a dirty word.

When we fail to teach citizens of a society collectivism, because being a member of a society means you are part of a collective whether you decide to be a good collective that functions or one that operates against itself (herp derp competition!) that does not, you get communication between members like this.

“I hate these people fuck them they should me more like MEEEE” “their opinions suck because they aren’t more like MIIIINE” and we act as a bunch of petulant infants that resent each other’s very existence in OUR world.

If we were taught that it is our responsibility to lift one another up, if we rewarded people in society on the basis of who and how many others they’ve helped and not how much they hoarded for THEMSELVES, this wouldnt be as much of a problem. We could, now that we don’t have to survive in nature, orient our mindsets to the positive, which would have to be encouraged young. Instead we’re made to be like… This. A useful state for killing a rival in YOUR hunting area when there’s only enough game in the region for one tribe to survive the winter, not so much when trying to build a civilization up. And don’t get me started on the counterproductive mindfuck that is nation states and super serious imaginary lines between them, meant to protect hoards of INDIVIDUAL wealth of respective elites.

The problem is, how do you start such a virtuous cycle when everyone from the owners down are only concerned with “ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE?”

Then again you hate tankies, so go ahead and cuss me out for calling out the reality that capitalism, especially when it has effectively conquered the culture, turns people into selfish little gremlins more likely to shoot a stranger than help them.

The first wave was right. (equal legal rights)

The second wave had a good point. (reproductive rights and workplace discrimination)

The rest were just further attempted power grabs that don’t even make the people they claim to represent happy. They tried to do what well meaning but ultimately misguided anti racism waves did by claiming gender shouldn’t even be acknowledged aka “I don’t even see the color.” Which is it’s own kind of bigotry.

Everyone should be allowed to fill the same role, but while a minority might be ecstatic in the corpo grinder, it made society worse for men and women more generally, and I don’t see many women who enjoy being forced into the hunter gatherer role by the capitalists and the convenient femininists whose message they coopted to boost productivity by mandating ALL the poors make widgets for them if they want to subsist.

It hasn’t been productive to raise women to believe it is essential that they defy gender norms as if it is their mission in life to do so. More than anyone else, modern feminists have culturally demeaned the role of being a wife and mother in society, which is ironic, since they seem dead set on making women fit the mold of the men they see as their oppressor.

Men and women are different, with different strengths and weaknesses and intrinsic desires. With overlap, there are things that make men happier and things that make women happier generally. We should have equality, but we’ve been trying to shoehorn both genders to be interchangable in any societal role en masse, and it’s taken a massive toll on men and women in different ways.

Edit: Nevermind, everything is awesome, we did it!

Nah.

We think we’re that powerful, but there’s an entire domain of creatures we can barely reach that utilize geothermal energy that will just keep plugging away out of our sphere of influence.

Surface and shallow water life is and will suffer greatly until we burn ourselves out and are no longer a threat on the scale we currently are, but humans are even egotistical in this topic. We couldn’t come close to sterilizing this world, even if it magically became as important to us as fucking one another over for paper simulacra of supposed value.

We are a nuisance, but we aren’t the first evolutionary nuisance the earth has dealt with. We have no mastery over this world as much as many like to believe so. A nuclear detonation possesses a tiny fraction of the power of a volcanic eruption.

If I was a non Israeli Jew, I would be PISSED at Israel for that exact reason.

I won’t say the same of Israelis, because looking at the percentages who are pro leave no Palestinians alive, they seem too much like a blood lusted cult to care about the opinions of.

And yes I know the Palestinians feel the same way, but the party with the bigger stick matters and always shoulders the burden of wielding that stick responsibly, and Israel has no interest in that.

I can safely say fire was discovered, not invented by man.

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You mean the communist and socialist regimes the capitalists used military force to destabilize for wanting to be societies instead of a bunch of rugged individuals at each other’s throats for scraps in order to keep their resource markets open to our capitalist’s exploitation?

HR is the office cop.

NEVER talk to American cops.

My HR and I have a wordless dirty look relationship.

How does it solve anything beyond the shortest of terms to keep seeing salvation in a party thats been creeping right in line with the Fascists for half a century?

What will your opinion be in another 5-8 years when the Democrats have followed the Overton window into calling for extralegal deportations of naturalized citizens and Republicans are just calling for the whites to shoot the non-whites in the street with impunity?

“Better support the Democrats, they only want to deport those people to foreign prisons not execute them on the sidewalk! Get that both sides crap out of here!”

-You in 5 years, probably.

I’m saying that human civilization, and especially puritanical societies of this civilization of which we are one in the US, have walled away the core of what we are, animals that want to fuck, trained us through a prism of shame to loathe that part of us, that we darkly call being civilized, and filled our days generating things that will provide us no meaning, as the closest thing to meaning that can be derived by our biology is getting as much dopamine and serotonin as possible through physical human connection, and we spend most of our time being told the greatest lever for that is shameful and harmful usually because it doesn’t make strangers richer, which is ridiculous in an age where if we had the correct priorities we would be able to do for fun as procreation that comes as a result is now chemically optional.

My point is humanity spends a whole lot of its time being miserable, toiling for widgets, to pursue or accept sexual partners in a roundabout way because we’ve made that that a small, token, conditional cookie for doing the “important” stuff, which I find sad and fascinating to observe. The point being used as a bargaining chip for the pointless, and then all parties wondering why they’re still anxious and depressed because they either didn’t come to terms, or because they did and it turns out all the plastic, silicon, and tea in china can’t provide even a passing shadow of the fulfillment of genuine, physical human connection can, and even that physical human connection is tarnished being turned into just another form of currency or coercion for stuff that doesn’t matter at all. How much does humanity toiling for that does not matter instead of fucking?

Tldr humanity would be happier if we were trained to see sex as connection with one another and not that dirty, evil thing of which we rarely speak and if we do it is with the utmost sense of serious danger. It’s too late for most existing humans though, as you can’t go to full grown adults steeped in that cultural stigma and say “oops we fucked up, our sexuality isnt some taboo evil thing with no place in society.” The damage is done. My hill is that shouldn’t continue that harmful culture going forward, but I recognize I’ll die on that hill as a tiny minority that sees the harm it does.

Sexuality is the point.

We spend a lot of time pursuing staggeringly and self-evidently pointless and stupid shit while suppressing and teaching being ashamed of sex and sexuality, to the point many just categorize their sexuality under potential trauma if engaged.

If we spent a lot less time grinding for nothing of import and more time fucking one another rather than fucking one another over for paper simulacra of supposed value, our species would be far more well adjusted. Even the difference between less prudish Europe and the puritanical US in general mental health is extremely apparent.

The way we treat sex, as something to shame behind close doors rather than celebrate, as we glorify plastic and silicon garbage, is beyond ridiculous and leads to shame and trauma in girls who become women and anger and resentment in boys that become men. We aren’t economic value producing machines, we’re fucking machines. We denied that at our peril, and now very few are happy with the state of things. Breathtakingly bad priorities.

That phrase is again just the perverse villainization of the social contract and being a society, and it ultimately only benefits those that want to extract wealth from societies instead of being a member of one.

I’m sorry that it sounds like you’ve internalized that capitalist aggression meant to keep our citizenry undermining one another instead of lifting one another up. If you’re disabled, your society should be judged for failing to give you adequate aid.

If you’re a member of this society and disabled, society should take care of you, otherwise it’s a shite society.

The problem is our society is hostile towards the concept of… Society.

We’ve been poisoned to believe individualism is strength when it is weakness. We’ve been propagandized to resent Americans when they fall on hard times, angry when they draw on herp derp muh tax dollars so as not to die when they lose a job or get an illness.

The US has a profound, deep rooted culture problem. We’re more a gaggle of wannabe rugged individuals undermining one another for oligarch crumbs than a society. That’s why I want this place to collapse, as both parties want that hyperindivualism poison to keep running us, because only under that die alone, sink or swim, winners and losers race to the bottom national ethos can the owners continue to exploit us to death for ever moar profit that’s still never enough.

It’s brought nothing but misery, it’s destroyed the social contract, and it’s destroying the planet. If we do not end our worship of the individual and the pursuit of avarice, it will end us.

Especially the type that Trump attracts.

Or any corpo bribe taking politician for that matter, nearly all of them in both parties at the federal level.

In the US, selfishness is a requisite for success. Living an ethical, empathetic life in the United States is a fast track to dying of exposure in a cardboard box under a freeway.

The Trump base will blame Obama/Biden/Clinton, I guarantee it.

It must be so freeing to live a life more divorced from logic or reality than an indoor dog.

Maybe eliminating natural selection was a mistake.

It certainly proved spending decades lobbying for lower corporate taxes turning public education into utter ruin made our society, and I use that term very loosely as we really aren’t, largely incapable of critical thinking and highly susceptible to confidence schemes.

Reminder: Americans believed slavery was just, genocide was just, segregation was just, and eugenics was just. Unless people are taught to critically think, reason, and empathize with their fellow humans, we are little more than feral beasts.

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