At some point we’ll just have to tunnel IP over DNS, and then they can’t block traffic without destroying the entire internet. Not that it’ll dissuade them.

Yeah, hard pass. Don’t let an OS which has a walled-garden by default for apps get a toe in the door. Android is based in Linux, use that instead.

I’m gonna be that “acktually…” guy for a sec here. Oil & gas (mostly) are not dinosaurs… the vast majority of petrochemicals are from compressed dead algae, plankton and plant matter long pre-dating the dinosaurs: https://www.chevron.com/newsroom/2024/q4/explainer-where-do-oil-and-gas-come-from

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Ah. That’s nasty, what a pain.

Forgive me but what is intune? I did a quick search and just found some Microsoft endpoint protection thingie – there is mention of a Managed Google Play but I have no idea what that would mean.

I haven’t yet tried – planning to do that in the next day or so when I get the time.

Others already replied with promising results, I sure hope they work for me as well (Scotiabank in Canada is particularly annoying in this respect in my experience, with LineageOS I had to use Magisk and define stealth rules specifically for their banking app).

Edit: As for camera, I’ve only tried the GrapheneOS builtin/default camera app. It’s pretty basic, but I should see if I can get the Pixel9 official camera app on there, it would be nicer to use if possible but the basic one is probably good enough for my purposes.

I took the jump and installed GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9 this weekend. Easiest alternate OS load I’ve ever done, didn’t even need to see a command line. (I’ve put LineageOS on many a phone and GrapheneOS’s web-based installer is amazing).

Loving it so far. I have three profiles, the main ‘Owner’ with NO google services/app store at all; and two more ‘Personal’ and ‘Work’ profiles that have Google stuff that I alone chose to install.

Amazingly GrapheneOS even lets you deny Google App Store itself permissions to install from untrusted sources (in this case, Google App Store itself) – I was suprised to see installing just App Store triggered attempts to then load: My Pixel, Google Photos, Fitbit(!!? WTF), and a few others, without any confirmation first. Was able to shut that shit down immediately. (I had never, ever installed Fitbit on my previous phones, so there’s no excuse to install it “from my previous device” or whatever…)

I hope GrapheneOS spreads to other phone models. And I’m sure Google has a team planning on how to strangle it before it does…

I’m keenly watching GrapheneOS and what they plan to do; supposedly they are working on a strategy.

Long-term, yeah Android needs a rival; I hope at least one of the Linux Phone projects out there can get good enough to use on some common brands or make an entirely new platform viable.

Can someone tell these journalists to STOP linking directly to x.com? Twitter requires a login now to view pretty much anything. Don’t give them the traffic, use xcancel.com for all links in stories.

(And No, I’m not doing it; I have no other reason to register with ‘thenewstack.io’)

Holy hell, wasn’t expecting that many downvotes. Wow. I wonder who I pissed off more, systemd or Wayland folks? :P

That’s fine, this is why Linux distros should always be diverse, to allow users to build their system using the tools of their choice. And why one project should never be in a position to unilaterally obsolete entire subsystems by fiat. Which is what I fear is being attempted here – that was my point.

Debian has a lot of sway, but if they make moves some of us don’t agree with, we have the freedom to go elsewhere. Thank you, Devuan maintainers, for what you’ve done so far.

Sad though, as I was an OG Debian fanboy, using it since the late 90’s.

Yup, guess I am :) … for now.

I have tried Wayland a few times over the past few years, probably bad luck on my part with what systems/chipsets I’ve had every time, that it hasn’t been a great experience. But I have read it’s getting there, so I expect someday I’ll just switch and not really notice the difference there.

As for systemd… yeah I’ll be “a wierdo” for the foreseeable future I suppose. Good ol’ sysV init scripts, or openrc, have always, and still do, work well enough for me.

Unless they absolutely guarantee feature-parity with the existing C-based utils, this smacks of Wayland-ism.

Debian is really losing the plot IMO. Glad I switched to Devuan some time ago.

Of all segments of the software industry, games seem to be the most exploitative. So sad, for what should be fun. Business execs taking advantage of those who cannot resist working on their passion. Unions need to get in that industry so very badly.

Why the downvotes? It seems at first glance like an interesting concept.

allegedly. Bwahahaha. Can we ever know for sure?

Hmm. OK, I’ve been using AdAway (not AdGuard) as DNS and/or VPN, experimenting with both) under Pixel 9 stock OS, and it mostly works… but some apps and websites still get ads through.

LineageOS w/Adaway root /etc/hosts blocklists was 100% perfect on my older phone… that’s my main quibble with trying LineageOS vs. GrapheneOS.

I know some people recommend against rooting, but I’ve never had security issues doing it and it seemed to offer more bulletproof ad-blocking.

Can you tell me how the ad experience is with GrapheneOS? As in, do apps which try to insert ads in screen transitions (or anywhere) still do so? Or websites which put in AdSense popups?

GrapheneOS doesn’t recommend AdAway or other adblocking solutions, so does it do so itself?

Hmm, I wonder if it’s Firefox specific then?