Agreed! They take issue more with the argument style to dismiss the substance.

It’s a real thing, for sure, but more often than not is used as a conversation terminator.

If I’ve been misunderstood, then it’s important to clarify further.

It’s not at all contradictory to say that in the context of a settler-colony like the US Empire, indigenous peoples will need to play a leading role among the broader working classes. It isn’t about racial supremacy, but about acknowledging the importance of decolonization.

The soviet union wasn’t an empire. It was large, sure, but didn’t practice imperialism, it wasn’t exporting capital as a means of profiting off of global south labor or anything. It was anti-imperialist.

Either way, the decline of the USSR was multi-faceted. From corn-cob man declaring that class struggle was over and demonizing their past experience, to liberal reforms under Gorbachev undermining the socialist system, to having to dedicate huge portions of their productive capacity simply to not get invaded and destroyed by the US Empire, none of this was due to “communist party hardliners.” Instead, as the world’s first real socialist state, it ran into problems and struggles that nobody else had before, they were charting new ground with every step.

Socialism Betrayed: Behind the Collapse of the Soviet Union goes over some of this.

The ones the DNC and GOP serve haven’t changed, capital’s interests have morphed depending on varying domesting and international situations. As for allowing multiple parties, on paper that’s true, but not in practice. See the ways they fuck with PSL ballot access, such as in Georgia in 2024. Finally, the idea that voters fall into 2 large groups is a consequence of capitalism being divided into 2 dominant classes, proletarians and capitalists, but only having the parties represent the capitalists. It’s political theater, not representation.

It seems to me that the political perspective of Americans across the board needs to shift left before much change can be had, so that the Democrats are true leftists and the Republicans are less far right

This isn’t how it actually works, though. The Dems and Reps aren’t very representative of the Statesian public, but instead its capitalists. The US is a capitalist state, it’s a dictatorship of capital, and both allowed parties represent capital only. This is shown by the low voting rates in the US Empire, the DNC and GOP cannot move left, only working class orgs can represent the working class.

Thanks, comrade! No worries, it’s very flattering, but this won’t be the last time someone accuses you of being me making an alt.

Again, I’m not @[email protected]. You can check @[email protected]’s account and see that he writes in a similar style that is distinct from mine. While flattering, I’d actually appreciate if comrade vovchik_ilich didn’t use my username as an alt-name, even if it isn’t the same, because I don’t like the idea of a cult of personality around me and because it can lead to confusion, like here.

I have 3 accounts: @[email protected], @[email protected], and @[email protected]. I used to have a lemm.ee account that I abandoned before making my Lemmy.ml account, made my Hexbear alt a long while after, and a Grad account very recently. I only use Lemmy.ml when interacting with any federated instance, and scroll Grad and Hexbear locally.

All that being said, you have no evidence that I have multiple accounts, nor can you actually argue against the points being made. This is just conspiracy-theory nonsense.

I have the same understanding of socialism as Marx, Engels, Lenin, and those who uphold them today. Cuba, Vietnam, the PRC, etc are all examples of socialism. Socialism is, at its simplest, public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes in control of the state.

Who are these “modern socialists?” Do you have a country you can point to, or perhaps an organization? Why are these “modern” socialists as compared to what I uphold?

Neither do I. They all support the working class controlling the state, the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is what I support.

Neither do I. They all support the working class controlling the state, the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is what I support.

Still not sure why you think communism is fascism, considering communism stands for collectivized production and distribution to satisfy the needs of everyone while fascism is capitalism in decay violently asserting the freedom of private property and forcing austerity on the public.

Socialist countries and fascist ones have, consequentially, had enormously different results, where socialist countries were marked with dramatic improvements in life expectancy, literacy rates, housing rates, healthcare, education, employment, and more, fascist states have delivered enormous profits to a tiny subsection of society and dramatically lowered these key metrics.

Not really sure what your goal is, here, if it’s to discredit me then you actually need to put in the legwork to do so. Otherwise it’ll backfire.

It’s multi-faceted. Ignoring the settler-colonial nature of the US Empire ignores its primary contradiction, the forces at play in the given society, and why the US proletariat is against revolution right now. Any working class organization needs correct analysis of settler-colonialism to have success elsewhere. It’s similar to trying to have a TERF worker organization, by excluding marginalized comrades and taking incorrect lines, we damage the movement and lose some of our fiercest fighters, all while winding ourselves into reactionary contradictions and tailism.

Yep, nobody is advocating for making this worse here, but organizing as they necessarily are. We can also celebrate the decay in influence from the US Empire as it dies. Accelerationism is bad because it alienates people for no real benefit, but organizing consistently the entire way through does work.

I don’t “lick authoritarian boot” for supporting existing socialism, and the person you’re replying to isn’t me.

Considering you think you’re replying to me, I’m not a fascist, I’m a communist, same as Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. There are no CPC agents pointing guns at me, I’m a communist that organizes in real life.

I also can’t ban you anywhere, the only space I moderate is Hexbear’s c/theory comm, which on a .world account you can’t even see.

I’m the same kind of socialist as Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, communist, whatever you want to call me. I’m no Nazi, and equating Nazism with communism contributes to Double Genocide Theory, a form of Holocaust trivialization.

I’m also not banned here either, I can talk to you just fine. This is a conspiracy-theory with 0 evidence, I’m not sure why you believe it so strongly.

Always claims of sea-lioning, but never any evidence. You’ve had me blocked for over a year now, why continue this crusade?

You’re right, that isn’t a solid foundation. What is, is working class organization along correct lines of struggle, part of which is decolonization, as the US Empire’s primary contradiction is settler-colonialism.

Further, you’re right to say that if the US Empire collapsed now that it would result in barbarism. That’s the point of organizing, though, so that when the US Empire is in crisis, we can overthrow it and implement a new system.

None of this is based on ideals, but learning from historical struggles for socialism.