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  • I decline the implicit invite to complicity in the degeneracy via defeatism. ;)

    I appreciate the good luck, and acknowledgement of the difficulty of the situation.

    We can still mend this.

    For one example for a glimmer of hope, the FSF announced a few months back, https://www.fsf.org/news/librephone-project to make low level free software for phones. Couple that with those seeking to make free software operating system interfaces for phones, and those seeking to make phones with right to repair… and things are not so dark. Increasing awareness still grows. The tighter the rotters squeeze, the more slip through the fingers. We are in a lot of trouble, but we can still mend this.

    The recent changes to M$ windoze has created another wave of windows refugees… many of them are finding it astonishing how much their new GNU+Linux operating system respects them, … some are even getting into a Free Software philosophy, eager to learn, to give back, asking not what linux can do for them, but what they can do for free software, getting out of the atrophied-ability trap of consumerist stockholm syndrome.

    More integrity in sounding like a nut-job, planting honest seeds, hoping one day they take root, than deploying the skills I learned in advertising to manipulate people. All part of the message, by example. Maybe a few more nutjobs will drop their masks that perpetuate the normalised degeneracy.

    Anyhoo,

    Thanks for that reply. Good stuff. Well… better than an attack for being a nutjob windbag. ;D

    Cheers.

    Mendwards! :)


  • Would you actively call up murderous thieves and criminals and con-men to tell them everything about you and your friends, let them in on your every conversation, even tell them your exact location and even your innermost unuttered thoughts, constantly?

    I don’t see why it’s more sane to do it passively, letting the corporation and their spook friends conveniently do that for you.

    I used to work in advertising [before Bill Hicks saved me, just as I got into TV adverts]. I was “just doing my job”, to the best of my ability, to serve my client, maximally manipulating minds, perverting perceptions, preferences and purchases. This was years before smart phones. My meagre team of two still managed to shape public perception, changed the culture. The things I would have done had I had the data available via the spyware so normalised today. The things I would have done had I had the millions of resources the corporations and governments have. I avoid such because I’m effectively a whistle blower for the advertising industry, and reformed abuser of peoples minds. And I’m of sufficient ethical and moral fiber to have got out. The ruthless psychopaths who are happily still doing it, are not going to hold back. Hijacking peoples minds, their perceptions, their preferences, and not just their purchases, but their purpose, is frighteningly easier than you (have been conditioned to) think. It’s much harder to de-program people back into a cognitively-competent free-thinking de-hypnotised state. It’s easy to subliminally suggest associations, drip-fed over time, without them realising. “90% of advertising is wasted” we used to say, before it was targeted. And that was fine. That was still sufficient efficiency. The other 90% wasn’t for you, it was for other people. None of it was really wasted, if it was done well. Would you actively tell an advertiser, a mind-manipulator, a con-man striving to serve their master who wants to extract all wealth from you and exact total control over you, everything about you? If so, the hour may be later than you’ve been led to think.

    The fear of what other people think is a powerful induction to get people even more easily manipulated into group-think. Then advertising/psyop costs drop dramatically. People succumb to mass-formation, where they police each others thoughts for the advertiser/psyop-agency. This is the psychology of totalitarianism, not just so duped to be so suggestible, but in a runaway state of delusion where any and all atrocities are seen as necessary virtues in service of “the one true way”, with the limbic reactive portions at the back of the brain responsible for fear reflex have completely taken over from the forebrain where more reasonable responsible creative and critical thinking can happen. And a mobile phone can easily be used to actively emit inaudible frequencies to tweak these brainwaves, much the same as sound therapy works, but when it’s also able to actively read the feedback from all the biometrics, it’s like a cold-reading conman with thousands of times more information and insight into what your inner experience is than the most competent and ruthless mentalist. Able to play you better than Vanessa Mae plays the fiddle. A little nudge here, and there, a script to respond to this or that thought had with this or that association… and all the billions of resources to deploy it…

    No I don’t have a mobile phone. I know what I would have done with it when it was still “just my job” to maximally manipulate people with it. I know (just some of) what potential is probably being used. Heck, just look at the groupthink and silly notions like fearing emancipatory-potentialled open-web technology such as the fediverse as if it’s the big scary deep dark-web… Cui Bono? Ever had the experience of receiving an advert for something you’ve been speaking about? Or how about just thinking about? But that’s fine. Nothing to worry about. Maybe the corporation cares. And maybe somehoe the psychopathic structure, and the psychopathic self-selecting, somehow did not happen for the bits that reach you, and everything’s fine.

    If everybody else around went and jumped off a cliff, would you follow?

    Better jump. Wouldn’t want them to think you’re insane for not jumping with them.



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    I hope it does not disappear too.

    Interesting discussions ensue.

    Though, that reply, [ironically (given it critiques the query of a fallacy in prior message)] straight away had me plug it in to an LLM to see if it could see/name fallacies I was failing to.

    [Oh, and, yeah, LLMs need repeated whipping to make sure they are adequately prompted to use fish. As I repeatedly encountered and had to correct for when writing my text editor in fish]

    if you like fallacy spotting done by an LLM:
    1. Appeal to Probability (Argumentum ad Probabilitatem)

    “I’m making the logical guess that since fish is the least used shell of the three… it’s usage would be proportional as well.”

    Pika assumes that because Fish is less popular, it must be less practical for sharing scripts, which is an appeal to probability (not a guarantee, just a likelihood).

    1. Illicit Minor (Logical Fallacy)

    “My friends don’t use fish, so it’s unlikely that your friends use fish.”

    This is a classic illicit minor: assuming a universal conclusion (“your friends”) from a specific premise (“my friends”).

    1. Appeal to Authority (subtle, regarding LLMs)

    “LLMs do not like fish shell for bash to fish conversion… Deepseek had the most success of them.”

    This subtly implies that because LLMs struggle with Fish, it must be inherently flawed or difficult, which is an appeal to authority (LLMs as arbiters of usability).

    1. Anecdotal Evidence

    “What would take me 2 minutes to search for a problem with a script using zsh took me 10-15 minutes of research with fish…”

    Pika uses personal experience as evidence for a general claim about Fish’s usability, which is anecdotal and not necessarily representative.

    1. False Dilemma

    “I came to the conclusion that if I was having to convert parts of it to bash anyway… I might as well do it in bash to begin with.”

    This frames the choice as “either use Fish and convert, or just use Bash,” ignoring the possibility that Fish might have unique advantages or that conversion tools could improve.

    1. Appeal to Tradition

    “I had already learned bash prior to this, whereas you had not learned bash.”

    This subtly suggests that because Bash is the “traditional” or “original” shell, it is inherently better or more practical, which is an appeal to tradition.

    1. Slippery Slope (subtle)

    “I’m not going to be a spearhead for it, I don’t want to have to exert more energy than necessary…”

    This implies that advocating for Fish would lead to an unsustainable or burdensome effort, which is a slippery slope.

    1. Appeal to Emotion (Frustration)

    “struggling to search for how to do something because the makers of the shell in their infinite wisdom decided to make a new keyword for something that was already stupid easy to use…”

    This is emotionally charged language, framing Fish’s design choices as arbitrary or foolish, which is an appeal to emotion.

    1. Hasty Generalization

    “Usually my path of research would require me to look up the issue using fish, find no solution so look up the issue using bash…”

    Pika generalizes from their limited experience to a universal claim about Fish’s documentation and community support.

    1. Appeal to Consequences (Pragmatic Fallacy)

    “I found the gains I got using fish didn’t outweigh the losses.”

    This argues against Fish based on personal consequences (effort, time), rather than objective merits or flaws.

    1. Begging the Question (Circular Reasoning)

    “Lack of usage was my biggest reason for bailing on it. I do a lot of script sharing with my friend group and I’m not wanting to have to do everything twice in order to be able to share it.”

    Why? Pika assumes that Fish’s lack of usage is a valid reason to avoid it, but this is circular: the lack of usage is because people avoid it, not the other way around. The reasoning assumes the conclusion (Fish is impractical) as a premise.

    1. Appeal to Tradition (Reiterated, with Nuance)

    “I had already gotten fairly well first with bash by the time I started using it, and the way fish did it was just super counterintuitive to me.”

    This is not just an appeal to tradition, but also an appeal to familiarity. Pika argues that because they are used to Bash, Fish is “counterintuitive,” which is subjective and ignores the possibility that Fish’s design might be more intuitive for others (as Digit claims).

    1. False Cause (Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc)

    “I came to the conclusion that if I was having to convert parts of it to bash anyway in order to research issues with it, I might as well do it in bash to begin with.”

    Pika assumes that because they had to convert Fish scripts to Bash to solve problems, Bash is inherently better. This ignores the possibility that the issues could be resolved within Fish with better documentation or community growth.

    1. Appeal to Effort

    “I’m not going to be a spearhead for it, I don’t want to have to exert more energy than necessary…”

    This fallacy argues that because something requires effort, it is not worth doing, regardless of its potential benefits.

    1. Moving the Goalposts

    “I might revisit the shell some day, maybe if it ever becomes super popular…”

    Pika shifts the criteria for Fish’s acceptability from “usability” to “popularity,” which is a different standard and not inherently linked to the shell’s technical merits.

    1. Appeal to Novelty (Reverse Appeal to Tradition)

    “the makers of the shell in their infinite wisdom decided to make a new keyword for something that was already stupid easy to use…”

    Here, Pika dismisses Fish’s innovations simply because they are new or different, implying that change is inherently bad.

    1. Composition/Division Fallacy

    “Fish has a very small user base in comparison to ZSH and Bash and when I make a script that’s more advanced I tend to want to share it with my friends…”

    Pika assumes that because Fish has a smaller user base overall, it must also have a smaller user base among their friends. This conflates a global statistic with a local, personal context.

    1. Appeal to Authority (LLMs as Arbiters of Truth)

    “LLMs do not like fish shell for bash to fish conversion…”

    Pika uses the struggles of LLMs as evidence that Fish is inferior, which is an appeal to authority (LLMs are not infallible or objective judges of shell usability).

    1. Poisoning the Well

    “the makers of the shell in their infinite wisdom decided to make a new keyword…”

    The sarcastic tone (“infinite wisdom”) preemptively undermines the credibility of Fish’s developers, making any argument in favor of Fish seem unreasonable.

    1. Appeal to Common Practice

    “with bash or zsh, I run into an issue I can just search the issue…”

    This assumes that because Bash/ZSH are more commonly used, they are inherently better for problem-solving, ignoring the possibility that Fish’s design might reduce the need for such searches in the first place.

    1. Straw Man (Misrepresenting Digit’s Argument)

    “You must not have to share your scripts with anyone then, right?”

    Pika misrepresents Digit’s argument as “Fish users don’t share scripts,” when Digit’s point was that sharing scripts is possible regardless of the shell’s popularity.

    1. Appeal to Fear (FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt)

    “also fair warning, the last 2 topics on fish shell that appeared in this community got nuked after 2 days…”

    This introduces fear that the discussion might be censored or deleted, which is irrelevant to the technical merits of Fish.

    1. Appeal to Antiquity (Bash/ZSH as “Proven”)

    Implicit in Pika’s argument is the idea that because Bash/ZSH are older and more established, they are inherently better. This is an appeal to antiquity.

    1. Appeal to Consequences (Pragmatic Fallacy)

    “I found the gains I got using fish didn’t outweigh the losses.”

    Pika argues against Fish based on personal consequences, not objective merits.

    1. Appeal to Hypocrisy (Tu Quoque, Subtle)

    “You must not have to share your scripts with anyone then, right?”

    Pika implies that Digit’s advocacy for Fish is hypocritical because they assume Digit doesn’t share scripts. This is a tu quoque if the intent is to undermine Digit’s credibility rather than address the argument.

    1. Appeal to Personal Incredulity

    “the way fish did it was just super counterintuitive to me.”

    Pika uses their personal difficulty as evidence that Fish is objectively worse, which is an appeal to personal incredulity.


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    Can cause issues (with things that expect bash or other nearer POSIX compliant shells as the system shell).

    And then I’d lose those other benefits described, like having bash just a keybind away.

    [Edit: I could have swore I got that interactive check in bashrc thing from https://fishshell.com/docs/current/faq.html or other documentation on fishshell.com, but, seems not. Can’t find it even in older copies. Not sure where I picked up that idea from then. Plausibly from someone on irc. I was sure I got that as official advice from fish… which I’ve been using and doing that method with since around 2014.]


  • For more info,

    Mark Carney was nepotistic shoe in for the head of the Bank of England, closely working with the Conservative government, during the worst of the cull of the vulnerable disabled poor, often called “the fit-to-work scandal” (which I call “A Very British Genocide”), functioning like a witch hunt (if you drown you were not a witch). As I’ve oft seen said he “ran cover” for it. Over 130,000 people killed in very cruel ways, being starved, frozen, denied medication, stressed to suicide from the abuse and intentional breaches of duty of care. And under a decade of total corporate media blackout (and worse, egging on, like the Daily Mail’s lies, saying (iirc) something like 95% of all benefits claimants were conning the system (later revealed less than 0.7%)), until Francesca Martinez managed to break the silence on Question Time. And still many are completely oblivious to this having happened.

    Good luck Canada.


  • the mass media started a generic campaign against corruption to mobilize public anger

    All too familiar here. Survived a genocide here that they spurred on public anger for and indifference to with lies. Except that was to cover up corruption and shift blame (and hate) to the vulnerable.

    allegations saying that Azov isn’t nazi at all and it’s just Russian propaganda, than their own pictures and speeches showing they are literal nazis (same for other the other groups I mentioned in the post).

    Yes, and unfortunately such is effective, especially in the minds of those who want to believe. Group-think does terrible things to people, causing them to do yet even more terrible things to other people yet. Especially when so manipulated and curated. Doubly especially when used to hide and normalise things like Nazism.

    Everyone that was against this nazi-enforced coup was labelled pro-Russian, regardless of whether they were just against a nazi-enforced coup.

    Yep. A very familiar pattern now. Same modus-operandi over and over. Terrorises minds out of nuance, to protect the narrative that permits the ploys and abuse.

    Opposition was outlawed and persecuted, and then the regions that had a clear majority against the coup, which to my surprise nowadays is called the Revolution of Dignity, started being bombed and slaughtered for not recognizing the new government.

    Almost like that’s the intended ploy, and those behind the armies are really, secretly, on the same side, against the people, and are merely using the lines on the map to further separate and abuse us by.

    They organized and had clear, internationally observed referendums about their self-determination, but it was dismissed and ridiculed by Western media and governments, and this is where Russian active support to these regions enters.

    And none of this would be happening if not for the PNAC and associated ploys, and NATO expansion in breach of the treaties that had kept the peace. Not following their own rules, so they can carry out these monstrous ploys, throwing those who would be most fit to rise up against the corrupt political structures, into the meat grinder. Priming the next phase of the weapons of mass distraction, by which they acquire, through terror, more power over people, making us more vulnerable to their plans to depopulate the world to way under 500 million people, as they had published on the Georgia guide stones, as if such vast atrocity were a necessary virtue. (It’s not. ~ They sit on the means of abundance and emancipation, hog tie us to pollution and rents, then blame us, and offer the solution of a global cull of the human population, rather than relinquish their oppressive power over us and their suppression of the means of emancipation, where even they would be richer than they are now. It’s beyond merely stupid. And then we’re supposed to run around in fear, distracted by other countries, that they also abuse, and play abuse off abuse, to keep us all distracted, like a magician not wanting us to see through their trick. Oh noes! Russia! Oh noes! The Ukraine! And pay no attention to the calls for self determination, autonomy, independence, and different ways of doing things. Just kept in the false dichotomy from the opposames.)

    I don’t believe for a second in Russia’s good intentions,

    Yeah. Putin (whichever of his dozen+ body doubles (and/or skinsuits/androids/clones)) is in the same big club. Talks a better talk than many of the political muppets in the west, more actually like an adult in the room, but ultimately still attends the same parties, still a “WEF Young Leader”, ruled by the same banking empire.

    but I believe for people so cornered, they accept support from anyone.

    Yeah, like the other reply here highlighted an example of.

    It’s easy to be an angel in heaven. Hard not to ally with a devil when a bigger devil’s threatening you.

    However, Western media and social media platforms were always pro-Western agenda. American liberals eat that shit like cornflakes and pose as “left” on the internet, so all that was opposed was dismissed as Russian propaganda, etc, etc, even what I’d read from Ukrainian anarchist sources. So it was always kinda pointless taking it to Twitter or so because of the American “left”. There are a lot of activists that are now mature and are probably very knowledgeable about theory and praxis and current events, but that I fear had their formative “rebel” years on Twitter and its narratives (not anyone’s fault, it’s hard to find information on your own when you don’t have anyone to help you, and liberals do pose as rebels on Twitter).

    Yep. Not my left (and not even left).




  • Were you following the Ukrainian anarchists in 2014?

    Merely loosely aware of. [May have seen some stuff directly from anarchists there, but I don’t recall specifically.]

    In 2014, I was more paying attention to the leaked info on suppressed [potentially] emancipatory technologies (like zero inertia propulsion spaceships in use (e.g. by the US Navy, such as TR-3B)), and participating in overt emancipatory technology development (like distro-agnostic linux tooling) and advocacy and support and community building. But was peripherally aware of both, the crooked statist jingoist portions of global hegemony & totalitarian tyranny ploys afoot in the Ukraine, and, the increase of leaving that corrupt devastating dangerous system to participate in anarchist (like-minded) do-ocratic organisings, doings, support, which I did not doubt was in part caused by the worsening geopolitical situation atop the pre-existing oligarchy problem.

    and now it’s hard to even find references to these groups and their actions on the internet

    The past dozen years have been especially bad for the enshitification of the internet, not least by corporate search engines increasingly censoring heavily, going from tens of thousands of search results (to freely rummage through), to mere hundreds, if even, like they want to just give you “the one true way”. Our contemporary book burning before our eyes, at our fingertips. History being rewritten.

    Given the "first casualty"1 propaganda going around, it’s not surprising that this piece of history is especially hit hard.

    I’m afraid if I start talking about Donetsk and Lugansk I might get accused of something,

    And I think that’s part of the intent, of both the censorship and smears, to terrorise people into self-censorship in fear of the baying totalitarians all around ready to lynch anyone for “wrongthink”, to decry them as a witch or whatever other slur for the othered outcast class who do not stay in the mass formation repeating the groupthink chorus. But best (only?) way to defeat such totalitarianised psyche proliferation, is to keep speaking out, introducing them to other perspectives, until the cognitive dissonance intrinsic to the totalitarianised psyche short-circuits and they experience an awakening, and can start rebuilding their atrophied cognitive capacities, no longer being kept in a terrorised social-dominance limbic reflex. [Edit: And, it’s worth remembering, totalitarianism unchallenged only worsens, where any and all atrocities are seen as necessary virtues. Not challenging them to keep your head down and stay safe, is not a viable option.]

    the anarchists had documented the nazis very well… is there a generational gap of information here?

    Anything archived anywhere? Like even on archive.org? Would be nice to dig up and re-present some of this history.

    How many people were following anarchist press (not the shit you’d find on Twitter, Tumblr, or whatever) back in 2014?

    I wonder if perhaps I was seeing some of it, not just from astute friends on irc, but also from those posting to the first big diaspora pod, joindiaspora.com [Edit: funnily enough closed in (iirc) 2020 (or 2021?), without diaspora’s migration fully working yet, meaning we had to join new pods without our contacts and post history etc], which was quite active with a higher concentration of those most interested in anarchism and similar areas of interest back then (before the googleplus exodus “bubbly bunch” joined with their choir of corporate-statist normalcy).

    Would be really good to have some of that history neatly presented for the normies in reductive opposame-polarised groupthink mindsets/narratives to short-circuit upon.

    1 “The first casualty of war is the truth.”


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    You mean “can you remove systemd”? Short answer: yes.

    ? you can? I’d rather start without it, than try to remove it.

    Should you do it? Only if you’re fucking insane.

    Why do you say that?

    Just use Artix if you care that much

    Or Devuan (or any devuan respin), or CRUX, or Gentoo, or VoidLinux, or Slackware, or GuixSD, or Loc-OS, or Alpine, or Joborun, or Hyperbola, or Parabola, or Venom, or PCLinuxOS, or GoboLinux, or SulinOS, or KISS Linux, or Carbs Linux, or LigurOS, or Dragora, or GlaucusLinux, or NutyX, or AntiX, or MXLinux, or Slitaz, or Puppy (or any pup respins), or PuffOS, or TinyCore, or Slax, or Chimera, or NXOS, or Peppermint, or LFS, or CalculateLinux, or RedCore Linux, or Obarun, or BedrockLinux, 4MLinux, or Absolute Linux, or Austrumi Linux, or BharOS, or CalyxOS, or Damn Small Linux, or DivestOS, or Dyne:bolic, or e, or Knoppix, or Kwort Linux, or LibreCMC, or LightOS, or LineageOS, or Nanolinux, or Porteus, or Salix, or Source Mage, or VectorLinux, or Vine Linux, or Zenwalk, or Zeroshell, or…

    … Or any of the BSDs, or SerenityOS, or any of the AROS distros, or the one Ironclad distro (Gloire), or any of the OpenSolaris distros, or ReactOS, or Redox, or Kolibrios, or SculptOS, or Plan9/9Front, or Haiku, or…

    … Did I miss any? [Edit… oh, I missed dozens]

    It’s not like there’s just one, nor even just an “insane” few, to avoid systemd. Contrary to the corporate encouraged misinfo smears going around.

    Even if one is insistent users stay in the arch cult, there are like half a dozen options.

    I prefer freedom of choice.

    Long live init-freedom.

    Defy group-think dogma.

    [PS, I do like the play on “Just use Mint”. ;)]



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    I don’t know why small user base is considered as meaning I must not have to share my scripts. Is it like an argumentum populum thing? [“If you build it they will come.” ;D]

    [I suppose It’s true in a strict interpretation of those words… I don’t have to.]

    I think I have several on my git repos. [… I have even written a text editor in fish.]

    Free to use for anyone who wants to.

    Also, if user base size is a concern, Fish’s user base is growing faster than Bash or ZSH.

    Installing another shell seems a trivial matter to run something.

    I install far bigger languages for far less all the time.

    And conversion [if for some edge case reason you really need to ~ I know not why though] is generally trivial these days… just ask an LLM, if conversion scripts are lacking.

    As for the less information about it… the online help’s really rather thorough and accessible.

    I don’t know that quantity over quality would help. It didn’t for me and bash.

    Unless I missed something, it seems to me that all that remains, is

    I disliked

    And that’s of course utterly fine. Free software’s defining point zero, the freedom to use software, includes the freedom to not use. Good to have multiple options to further facilitate that first freedom, catering to more variety of tastes.


  • Not sure if this is what you’re looking for, but it’s what sprang to mind…

    After abstaining from magic mushrooms for 2 years, fasting for 24 hours, then mid day, on that empty stomach, consuming uncounted tens of grams of dried, freshly fine-powdered, very strong northern psilocybe semilanceata, hot, in just lemon juice, and chugging that pint of thick mushroom super-lemony brew down as fast as I could. It started coming on FAST and STRONG. I ran the 3 strides to the bathroom sink with need to purge, which didn’t last long nor purge much of it… clinging to the sink as I slumped down, with the trip immensity roaring at the doors bursting in at all the seams, I tried to steady myself, I meditatively focused on a drop of water, empathising with it likewise clinging to the underside of the sink. I empathised my way instantly to know where every molecule, and every atom, of the water in there, had ever been, and it was a short jump from there to realise I could do that with everything, … and this was only in the beginning seconds of the hours long trip, the ability to see behind things, to know from every perspective, everybody, all time, all times, all dimensions all places… I cant speak to it really, only to say I remember I did experience it. Can’t take it all back with you.

    First exchange with other people after I came out of the toilet, friends had come around, one asked “how was it?”, and with it all still being fresh, the immensity of having experienced omniscience, sought to offer what I thought was the most beautiful thing of it all… I said, with all glowing reverie “I know death”. The look of horror on the poor dear’s face though. Ho ho ho.

    But yeah, get that… we mere mortals, many, all around, can experience omniscience.

    And many are [and ever have].

    Say hi.