Gorgritch_Umie_Killa

Was this bridgyfed?

Now that is an unpopular opinion.

This is like an opinion some Easterling would have. /j ;)

What if i told you its got a frypan wielding, tater tasting, gardener?

A Modern Family reference. Nevermind, its a bit dated now i guess.

Is this Phil Dunphy?

Organ attacks a good one.

Find the lesser posted contributors to your field/s of interest, read them, post them, share your thoughts.

This means you are actively using social media, actively considering different texts in subjects you already have an interest in, and actively using your brain to make considered contributions.

This is my go to. Take a look at my post history in aussie-enviro. I continually go out of my way to find environmental or conservation organisations themselves instead of waiting only for a news site like Guardian to do a write up themselves.

I’m finding my reading speed and attentiveness has improved, and i’ve better knowledge recall, especially on key details. Its of course fun as well.

Good answer.

Hahaha, so joyfully useless!

I used to work with a lady who could whistle like it was a summery bird. She was one of the more pleasant people i’ve worked alongside in my life.

So you could be that guy in the movie who starts the slow clap, and also that guy in the movie whose clap is only earned when everyone else is cheering.

When you say hold, what do you mean?

Like furrowing your forehead and holding it in the creases? Or is it more of a balance type situation?

Do you pick it up with your forehead as well, or does this thing need finger loading?

What part/s of the pencil can be held, is it the side? Dull end? Sharp end?

Please answer this.

Maybe your one of those local famous people everyone in town knows about, but nobody from out of town has ever heard about, you might be called, the red-line throat singer, the train seat growler…

Hi all!

I’m wondering if anyone knows of a lemmy tracking site that records community level stats in time series/graphs?

I’m thinking for things like,

• active users,
• subscribers,
• comments,
• posts.

I use, Lemmy Verse which has all the stats above at Community level, but its only the latest updated number, not presented in timeseries.

I also use fedidb which does have some timeseries graphs, but only at Server level.

I’ll vote for Stanislaw. That guy seems up Lemmys alley.

Not really, because the very people who will be telling them this is an ‘onboarding instance, we eventually want you to choose another instance and move there’, will also be the ones telling them all about the possible instances the new comers can move to.

Maybe its a bit like an orientation at a university. They are specifically not the same as the courses students will eventually attend, the orientation (onboarding instance) has a different purpose to the course (home instance). You may meet people you’ll never see again, the guides role isn’t to be the course lecturers/administrators (analogous in this case to mods/admins) that you’ll interact with throughout your course.

There might be a little passing sadness if you get to the end of orientation if you’ve had a very enjoyable experience, but the student (user) has expected the end, they’ve known when and why its coming. And hopefully if they’ve enjoyed the experience on the onboarding instance that much, they are that much more excited for the next steps.

Yeah i agree, LW seems to be the defacto sandbox.

So the issue with LW is users history becomes a barrier to exit. An onboarding instance needs to make clear that it is an introductory instance for newcomers to discover and learn lemmy. That they are expected to move off the Instance within, for instance, a month or two.

If new users expectations are set to understand this, their investment in the profile itself will be lower.

You could disable themeing attributes like usernames and icons for users to make clear the transitory nature of their user profile. I’m not sure i’m fully there with that, but it could be a useful tactic. Replace usernames with a number for instance, or [email protected]

1. Yeah, i shouldn’t have waded into the technical stuff, i knew i’d get it mixed up! My bad!

2. I would never dream of migrations like that. Theres lots of doubling of Communities on Lemmy. Its, for the most part, been quite a healthy thing to have multiple communities on the same or very similar topics.

Some haven’t worked and are dead while others thrive, it provides an outlet for disagreements with overzealous mods, sometimes the minute differences in the worldnews commujities really makes a difference in the types of posts on each of them.

The above aside, So the idea i’m suggesting is strictly onboarding topics on the Local. Meaning the Local for anyone who’s been around a while could find the Local quite boring, that in itself acts as a nudge for new users to move when theyre ready.

So no c/funny, or c/movies, communities, as you say others have got good communities going on those topics already.

The onboarding topics would include things like c/Choose a Home Instance, c/What is Fediverse, c/What is Lemmy, c/what the hell is Peertube, etc. Stuff like that, this is all of the top of my head so take the names for their vibe, not literally.

The ‘onboarding only instance’ matches your requirement of not being too political too quickly for newbies and avoids the questions of how far to go with whats defined as political. Because on the instance you will be deemed off topic if the comments aren’t in relation to the new users setting themselves up on Lemmy. However, it has the added bonus of new users being able to go into All to see the real deal, then fall back into Local of they need context for something they’ve seen.

Owners and Guides

One or more admins may run it if they came to an agreement. A capable admin or group of admins would have to put their hands up, but this is no different from any other instance.

As for paying and modding of the instance, the Onboarding Instance should come into existence through an organised Collective of existing and willing admins/mods/longtermusers from a range of Instances.

These are likely the people with the best experience to disseminate to new users. So would be important to take on the guiding roles needed in the onboarding instance communities, even if they have no technical oversight of the instance.

The payoffs

• The key is to ensure new users leave the onboarding sandbox, if that fails, then you’re correct.

1. General growth of Lemmy, whats good for one is good for all. A large, and stable Lemmy user base will help give this network ongoing strength.

2. New users filtration into appropriate instances may temper the rapid expansion and domination of the majors like lemmy.world. While increasing the likelihood of users sticking around because they have found their place and have a clearer understanding. I suppose this also has a bonus of decreasing work for admins, eg, deleting users accounts and the like.

3. Own Instance growth. Some new users will inevitably filter through to your own instance. Assuming your instance takes new users.

Finally

cog in someone else’s machine

Setting something like this up, i see, as an acceptance that Lemmy is hard to wrap your head around. And we as a network of disparate Instances can better organise ourselves in a mission to help the new-comers growing Lemmy.

It probably goes back to your aussie.zone being country-based

This is likely the reason.

Maybe the above difference we have in our user experiences is why from my perspective this looks like it’ll work, and why it doesn’t look like it from your perspective.

Some might want to stay in the onboarding instance forever

Thats where i think the active mods in those Local Communities acting as guides for new users is essential.

For example, ‘Home Instance Selection’ would need mods actively putting up links and guides for selecting an instance, while actively discovering new ones, then responding to questions newcomers have about certain instances. Basically the mods on that community would be signing up for something akin to a city’s Tourism Stand.

It seems the divisive posts/instances, can only really be avoided three ways.

1. An as yet unavailable technical fix to allow users to block instances,
2. by convincing your instance to defederate, or
3. by having a strong Local to fall back away from All/Subscribed into.

I’m advocating to lean into the third option as the best way to deal with the divisive post/instances from the outset. It seems to leverage the decentralised but connected nature of fediverse best as well.

I’ve tried to read through and understand all the comments. I have certainly failed in doing that, so bear with me if this has already been covered.

Can’t we spin up an ‘onboarding’ instance? Where Local is focused on helping new people navigate and understand this stuff with focused communities to navigate Lemmy, understand Fediverse, Choose Instance, even communities run by adjacent fediverse participants like piefed, mastodon, peertube etc.

The instance could have a clear onboarding mission, with an expectation that as users become acclimatised they will move off to start trying a ‘home’ server. Their account could be activated only for a period of time on that server.

The delineation between Local, subsrcibed and All can be leveraged here to provide a safe harbour with active mods ready to guide, while allowing Lemmy Full Blast on All, so people understand the reality of Lemmy.

This would also provide an experience a lot like the experience i generally have with Lemmy, AZ is cool, sometimes a little sleepy but rarely any real issues or drama. When i’m up for it, i venture onto All, but its easy to deal with because i know i can just switch back to Local whenever i want. I imagine this is what its like for most users on medium to smaller instances.

I agree with the person yhat said subscribed isn’t that useful, i’ve found that as well. Maybe thats poor subscriptions by myself to blame for that though.