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Interesting…all of it? I’m in Ontario but my hub/ISP is in Quebec so all my random advertising is in French.

Somehow it knows to target advertising to you in English…maybe you need to work on your privacy?

Heh. I’m in Ontario, but I guess my DNS is outta Quebec…so most of my banner/insert advertising is in French. It’s fucking awesome because I have no idea what they’re saying or advertising to me most of the time. Highly recommend.

Welp, now I’m off to XHamster. Thank a ton >B|

You’re just not accurately describing American libertarianism…it does, indeed, have wealthy people behind it, because American libertarians also loves a strong state that can fix regulations in their favour. Peter Thiel and some of the Koch’s are “libertarians”, ffs. “Freedom for me but not thee”, etc. American libertarianism is synonymous with hypocritical.

I think what’s happening here is you’re describing the Dave Smith party/partisan type libertarians, and not the movement at large. The niche that runs a presidential candidate and puts small business owners on stage at the convention is a “boutique” brand of libertarianism, and doesn’t represent the much larger group of people who, for example, Donald Trump shows up and tries to woo: yeah, he got bood in the building…but he was talking to the broader libertarian movement, some of whom were threatening to abandon his coalition - and it appears to have worked.

I mean…I stand by what I said…your definitions weren’t accurate…but knowing that you’re a Marxist now means this is likely just an “academic” issue. Your leftist definition was confusing without that context. I don’t call myself a Marxist because I don’t look at Marxism as a template for a political system, but rather an effective way to moderate capitalism. But I also think everybody who talks about economics is a Marxist to one degree or another. I’m likely preaching to the choir here…but the genius of Marx isn’t that he outlined a functioning communist state…but rather that he gave us a philosophical foundation for why capitalism cannot work, and how socialism can - full stop, end of story.

I don’t care for anarchists, really…even tho I occasionally caucus with them. I used to hate them as much as right libertarians - horse shoe theory and all - but I’ve softened because it’s time to coalesce…strategy almost doesn’t matter any more…we need action. I am super thankful they haven’t been polluting “our” protests to the degree they used to.

“…minimum state intervention…” isn’t part of the definition. That’s a value judgement and a concept that gets thrown around by the idealists. The concept of libertarianism was invented to moderate a necessary and ubiquitous state, and can’t exist without one.

You defined classical libertarianism or right libertarianism, which grew up to be what we see as The Libertarian Party in the USA today, for example. It was “rebranded” specifically to add the notion of “minimal state intervention” - to make themselves distinct from libertarians (who functionally existed, at that time). Much like classical liberals, classical libertarians are antithetical to the definition of their namesake.

I mean…that says it all.

Sure, the seemingly benevolent small business owners feature heavily at the conventions…but behind the curtains it’s really a coalition of rich guys, gun nuts, NAMBLAs, zoophiles, etc. in a stuffed cheap suit.

I have to push back a bit that the core of the proper definition of libertarianism is freedom from the state. It’s isn’t/wasn’t. The state plays an essential role in functional libertarianism, for what should be obvious reasons: libertarianism requires a mechanism, aside from power, to resolve tension between competing freedoms.

See The first “definition” doesn’t fit the group you’re trying to define. If you’re talking about American (using the US as shorthand)…they are by no means restricted to or feature small business owners, that’s but a small (albeit with outsized power) enclave in the “coalition”. ie you can’t mention small business owners without also mentioning that the largest business owners also may be “libertarians”. Their policy ideologically and thus empirically opposes the working class.

There’s no left wing version of the word, or rather, the proper definition is leftist. What you’re describing seems to be an ideological axe you have to grind with Marxism, or socialism something. Actual libertarianism is simply a school of thought - a collection of philosophies - that prioritize individual liberty (freedom). In other words…it’s a criticism - a way to moderate - a necessary capitalist system. Generally these philosophies aren’t related to American libertarianism/freedom…it’s more of a freedom from rather than a freedom to thing…to oversimplify: leftist (real) libertarians believe power structures shouldn’t impede the (not obstructive and lawful) acts of the people - it’s very conscious of power differentials, while American libertarians believe in an absolute right to individual freedom that may or may not conflict with other peoples’ freedoms - after that point of tension it comes down to functional power (thus it’s antithetical to the proper definition and why the prioritization of power pairs so well with - rather than moderates - capitalism and even fascism). Some of the groups that American libertarians welcome into their coalition are grotesque perversions of the concept - even if they put the small business owners on stage at the convention.

It’s depends on what you mean…it’s a fraught term, to say the least.

Actual definition of the word…or the Ron Paul (etc) nuts?

I live in a rural area that’s a popular tourist destination for people from big cities.

In the summer it drives me absolutely bonkers when the tourists come with their bikes/rent bikes…and ride in groups up to 5-wide, around blind corners etc. We don’t have shoulders, and if we’re do they’re rarely maintained.

I don’t understand the former. Somebody is sitting in a waiting room and believes it’s appropriate to start watching loud YouTube to pass the time.

Thanks a ton. I was really struggling with the transition when using a few of the above mentioned apps…before I settled on Blorp.

Way more grammar and spelling aholes, lol. About 50% are false positive because I have large hands and shit eyes…but the other half are appreciated.

This was the first thing that threw me off: people here tend to comment in good faith. I’m so used to people begging the question and generally having iron clad closed minds…from Reddit.

…but here conservations have often come to conclusion where I and another user agree to disagree amicably, or one of us moves towards the other in light of new information or a logical argument.

it’s really weird…but I hope it stays like that so I can get used to it.

Yeah. The way it seems to function is Reddit itself has automated moderating…and the mods have almost absolute control over their own subs. Reddit itself doesn’t check for ban evasion…unless a mod requests it….so the sub mods have another layer of moderation that activates additional automated moderation. The very obvious problem with this is that too many mods are petty little dictators and know how to exploit the automated moderation system: ie there’s nothing preventing mods from taking note that a person uses two accounts, ban the account that person is not using when they want to prep for a site ban - then trigger the autoban to get rid of a user. The bans some subs give out are always horribly uneven…and now I see why. I’ve seen this scenario play out several times due to ideology or personal grudges, rather than the breaking of Reddit rules.

Short story long…”ban evasion” appears to be a gift given to sub mods to use at their pleasure.

That’s really what it feels like. Like…they have all this technology that associates multiple accounts with one person…but they don’t give you heads up even if they know damn well you’re the same person.

There must be some function of alternate accounts that benefits Reddit in some way.

Oh man…awhile back that happened to me: I complained to a mod in PM about racist posts in their sub - on my desktop account…then used the app on my smartphone because I wasn’t at home. It was different accounts because I’d forgotten my password at some point…but I didn’t actually care which account was what - I never cared about Karma and didn’t differentiate between them.

Little did I know the petty mod had given me a one-day ban for “harassment”…and both accounts got banned for “evading”. Back then Reddit admins weren’t swamped (I guess?) and the ban was overturned right away.

I think if that happened today it would have been an automatic autoban. It really feels like a set up. Why are they letting you have multiple accounts if they associate them with one person? What it feels like is Reddit given scammers tools that end up fucking over normal people.

Yeah man…I was fully addicted to Reddit for years until quoting Worf from Star Trek got me a 3 day autoban.

I reflected at how much of the “content” was automated: any major sub had countless accounts posting nonsense to promote themselves, a product, a YouTube channel, a blog. It’s become the definition of enshitification.

I deleted my account and the app before the autoban expired…not looking back.

I left Reddit for good a few weeks ago when I got a 3 day autoban for directly quoting Worf from Star Trek…in response to a post asking for quotes. I think it was an autoban because a couple years previous I got an auto-warning for quoting a punk song in a punk sub…appeal rejected.

I appealed the 3 day ban…but no idea if it would have been accepted because I deleted my account and the Reddit app after 2 days when I snapped out of my Reddit addiction and finally realized how enshitified it’s become.

It’s not dead…but it’s certainly an enshitified: husk of itself.

The way I described Reddits’ current state to somebody who asked was: “A bunch of bulletin board/chat rooms moderated by wanna be despots…all of whom rely on an overarching AI moderator that’s constantly sniping users and handing out bans for benign content. In between Ads and bots trying to instigate you or farm your clicks.”

it’s basically turned into a weird Orwellian advertisement delivery service. All the mods who turned their pages black should have just left.