If those crimes had actually taken place you would most likely have my agreement, but right now it is a preemptive strike because some people believe a genocide it is coming and inevitable.

It is, but it’s strongest among people who were taught that wishing ill on the ones cracking their whip is impolite.

It’s strongest among those that were taught that everyone is human.

Charlie Kirk’s death may or may not be worth ruining anyone’s mood over, but sectarian violence that threatens to snowball is. Even if the shooter turns out to be an even further right white Christian nationalist doing this to cause a further erosion of the divide, it works if people on the left are celebrating.

Oh well, you know what they say, and eye for an eye will blind my enemies more and then everything will be just fine.

I really don’t know how I should reply to this. Like yes, murder in general is something I am not fond of, and I am pretty sure that is a normal response?

Politically motivated murder is also something I find a specific version of repugnant, no matter the politics of the victims. I think the same about the Minnesota legislators. I feel the same way about the attack on Paul Pelosi, and I think Nancy should be a criminal. Neither deserve to be killed. Killing political opponents is the ultimate breakdown of society.

I am not squeamish about death in general however, be it war or accidents or suicide. Death happens, it’s part of life. I can look as Russian soldiers dieing in Ukraine as both a senseless waste of life and totally necessary and warranted at the same time as they are an invading army. I may even experience some schadenfreude, but know intellectually that it’s not something that should be celebrated.

If someone does something stupid like try to pet the Bison in Yellowstone, I think it’s tragic for their family while being the obvious outcome of their jack of judgement. Before you make the comparison, one side of that obvious outcome of stupidity is a literal wild animal without the ability to reason.

It’s the murder part that makes me “feel icky”, not the death part.

I am not sure what you wouldn’t get about immediacy of threat in relation to self defense. There are very clear reasons that self defense involving lethal force is restricted to the immediate act, and that some of those restrictions are loosened only within your home.

Killing someone because you believe they will kill you or cause your death at some point in the future is not an acceptable way for a society to function.

That is not what I am saying at all, we have many other options before getting to killing as the solution. Learning from history is the point, but you do not jump the gun on death being the penalty for things. The ammo box is the last box to be used for a reason.

If you are not talking obliquely about extrajudicial killings, why are you saying opposing it means we can do nothing until the genocide happens? You were talking about the execution of a propagandist that supported the Holocaust as a direct comparison with Kirk. This comparison can really only be used as an explanation for why it was somehow acceptable for him to be killed. The up thread was about justifying Kirk’s death as a Nazi propagandist.

And the Trump administration has not yet committed any Holocausts or genocide yet. At this point in time it is still “future crime”. The Trump admin hasn’t been convicted in the Hague of genocide.

Once Trump opens death camps and starts exterminating LGBTQ people, only then does Kirk rises to the level of Streicher. Until that point, it is execution for political disagreement and free speech. You don’t have to like the guy in any way for that to be wrong.

We don’t want to set a precedent that the best way to change someone’s political ideology is to kill them to eliminate that ideology.

And if the Trump administration were exterminating people in death camps and had been convicted in international criminal court then you would have a point.

As it is the administration is obviously ignoring its own laws and being disgusting with racial profiling when deporting immigrants in the country illegally, and grabbing legal immigrants and citizens through this overzealousness and rule/law breaking.

The US is not committing a holocaust against Hispanics. It is not committing one against the LGBTQ community either. Even if you believe that the US is capable of committing one here and that it is coming, it is not happening yet and so Charlie Kirk cannot be an execution for propaganda supporting mass murder/genocide that has already taken place.

Execution for crimes that will be committed in the future is execution for thought crime or execution for free speech.

Your absolutely right and I will be moving to an open source TOTP solution going forward, it just sucks that great services keep getting enshitified and we have to keep moving to better pastures. LastPass to Bitwarden, now Authy to something else.

My work 2FA is physical token based, it is my personal 2FA that causing me problems. Email and text authentication is insecure enough that I try and use a software authenticator whenever possible.

Great point about the work phone. I don’t want a work phone as I don’t have any desire to be reachable 24/7 outside of the rotating week I’m on call, but if I was expected to have email and Teams and everything on my phone I would definitely require one. Thankfully my work texts are all for team updates, heads up about issues, scheduling matters, etc, but I still consider those to be important while not riding to a separate work phone

I suggest just exporting and using a different 2FA app, especially an open source one like Aegis

Authy dropped their desktop app and killed the ability to export. I will have to start from scratch, but I definitely plan to.

I spent a week with that discussion your linked plus several other posts, I just couldn’t get it working. I might have better luck next time I try it though.

That was why I wanted to move to GrapheneOS, I could selectively use Google services or apps for convenience while still being more secure than stock Android. I’ll have to plan my next attempt out instead of Yolo and adapt, lol.

I do plan to migrate to a new 2FA, but Authy made that hard by getting rid of their desktop app so you can’t port and have to go to each service and manually sign up a new app one by one. I tend to boycott services when they get that anticonsumer/anticompetitive out of principle.

Oh, totally, which is why I am working towards as much decoupling as possible. I plan to replace my Nest gear with Ubiquity for cameras and stuff as I can afford it, and eventually set up my own offline automation server. This can only end badly for consumers.

The collusion between services like Authy and Google indicates this to me, but it’s also effective and means I have to pivot in slower degrees. I am encountering similar issues moving to Linux from Windows, so this is a full Silicone Valley issue.

That was an inconvenience, but one I could make if it was the only issue. It was more the total accumulation of things. My 2FA app pulling support for “unsigned” operating systems coupled with missing work texts due to RCS failure were the main straws to break the camel’s back. Having to find an alternative and then manually change all 2FA was almost a deal breaker in itself. That played into using a web browser for my financial institution access.

Yeah, this is a problem. I attempted to switch to GrapheneOS just a month ago and had to roll back to stock Android. One of my banking apps worked, but 3 others didn’t. My 2FA app didn’t work. I stopped receiving important texts as they were previously RCS and that refused to validate no matter what I did.

Google has made it extremely hard to degoogle.

It’s time for Voodoo to make a triumphant return!

Awesome, how do yoi like the Graphene experience? I just switched from Samsung to a Pixel and installed Graphene as soon as I got it. Still getting used to things, and still using some Google services and apps. Have you found good replacements for things like Android Auto and RCS for text messages (not that I can get RCS working yet in any case)?

NextCloud and Ente look interesting, I need to check those out for Photos and Drive alternatives.

It doesn’t come across as you appreciating value in artistic expression and other intangibles when you say “suck it up and get a real job”. That may not have been your intention, but it can definitely be read that way. I think that is the “boomer” people have commented on.

I don’t think there are really that many people who think social media creators or better than farmers or essential services personnel, and those that do are completely out of touch, but there are plenty of people who see alternative media creators as less than any other job. I personally think A-list actors, celebrities and sports professionals are no better than grocery store worker or warehouse person, but I won’t deny they work just as hard in different ways.

By that metric do authors or poets or actors create a physical product? Do computer programers? Since the death of physical media, books and art are now far more frequently digital than paper or canvas. Applications and software is 100% digital. Newspapers are dead, so journalists don’t create a physical product. Is your argument that only physical labor producing physical things is “real” work?

This is why I have stopped buying anything Blizzard. They removed the Warcraft 3 I payed for and replaced it with a completely unplayable something I didn’t want. Ubisoft has been on my shit list for a while for unrelated reasons too, but now they are on my never again list. And I never even played The Crew. Bad business is bad business even if it doesn’t directly impact me.

At the very least back up your Audible library in a DRM free format with something like Libation.

I am still using Audible because their web player works in my restricted office, and the authors get a couple of pennies from dragon, but have my library safely exported to ensure continued access and prevent fuckery like this.