Why not keep your data remotely accessible and then go through customs with a blank device? If you’re only out for a few days, then download files as you need them. If you’re out for weeks or months, transfer a few TBs if need be. If you’re worried about internet transfer speeds, encrypt the files, put them on an external hard drive, and mail them to someone at your destination ahead of time.

Sorry. Don’t lecture to me about the dangers of political violence when we’re talking about someone that actively championed literal genocide. In a just world he would have been tried and hanged for crimes against humanity.

Kirk already engaged in political violence. He encouraged his followers to countless acts of violence. You’re just mad when people dare to fight back against their oppressors. You call it a two way street, but it was already a one-way street. Right wingers are allowed to plot literal genocide, and the rest of us are supposed to just sit back and pretend it’s just fine and normal.

No, sorry. Fuck everything about that. The world is a better place with Charlie Kirk firmly in the ground. He was a mass murderer.

Sorry. Maybe you’re just too comfortable as the member of a majority group, I don’t know. But for those who are targeted, they can understand that a threat to wipe out a group you are a member of is no different than a threat to kill you personally. You’re just engaging in sophistry.

You’re right. It’s a different crime. It’s not self-defense in the immediate criminal sense. But Charlie was absolutely guilty of incitement to genocide and crimes against humanity. We’ve literally hanged people at tribunals like Nuremberg for doing the exact same thing that Charlie spent his whole career doing. In just world, Charlie would be indicted on crimes against humanity, convicted, and hanged for his crimes.

“I didn’t plot to kill you, I just plotted to kill your entire family. You have no business complaining.”

Kirk was directly tied into the Trump administration. He himself sent busloads of followers to help storm the capital. Kirk’s jobs was to convince people that the genocidal plans of the Christian Nationalists are OK and should be celebrated and expanded. By the time you get to the level of power and influence of Kirk, you’re not really a private citizen anymore. He was instrumental in getting Trump elected. Yes, he doesn’t have a formal position in the government, but most of the charges against Streicher were for things that had nothing to do with the little bit of power he briefly had.

The Nazis that were hanged at Nuremberg trails weren’t killed because of speech or beliefs, they were killed because of their actions.

You are simply wrong in this case. We hanged Nazi propagandists, as we recognized that they were committing conspiracy to commit genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

Most of the evidence against Streicher came from his numerous speeches and articles over the years.[72] In essence, prosecutors contended that Streicher’s articles and speeches were so incendiary that he was an accessory to murder, and therefore as culpable as those who actually ordered the mass extermination of Jews. They further argued that he kept up his antisemitic propaganda even after he was aware that Jews were being slaughtered.[73]

Streicher was acquitted of crimes against peace, but found guilty of crimes against humanity, and sentenced to death on 1 October 1946.

Whatever happened to the right of self defense? For example, Charlie Kirk was literally trying to kill me. He was actively attempting to do so. That isn’t hypothetical or allegorical. Charlie Kirk literally wanted me dead, and he was taking active material material steps to advance that goal.

If someone busts into my house and tries to kill me with a gun, I’m allowed to shoot them to defend myself. But suddenly when someone like Kirk wants to kill me and thousands like me, it’s sacred protected speech just because he’s chosen to use the state as a murder weapon.

It’s not about tolerance. It’s about conspiracy to commit genocide.

We all recognize that plotting and conspiring to kill one person is wrong. But somehow when someone starts plotting to kill a million people all at once, people like you come out of the woodwork and start hand wringing about freedom of speech. Conspiracy to commit a crime is not protected speech. Conspiracy to commit mass murder is not protected speech. Murder is murder whether you use a knife or the apparatus of the state. People who advocate for genocidal political policies should be treated no differently than those that plot to murder a single individual.

Christians have been masturbating about being victims ever since we stopped feeding them to lions. Perhaps we should start that up again.

Right wingers are fundamentally motivated by a firm belief that they are innately superior to everyone else. People of other races, religions, genders, sexual minorities, etc. are beneath them. This is all they really believe; the rest is just sophistry.

What if the government decides tomorrow that you posting on lemmy makes you a terrorist? There’s no law that can’t be abused by bad-faith actors.

The key is you have a well-crafted law that actually makes specific things illegal. You don’t create a shitty law that makes it easy to abuse. The law that the UK government is using isn’t a well-crafted law that the government is abusing - the law was written to be deliberately vague to allow just this sort of abuse. The key is to write laws that can’t be so easily abused.

Yes, you can whine that any law can be abused. But that’s the same for ANY law. A particularly craven judge could rule that even a crime as straightforward as murder could apply to something completely nonviolent. But that doesn’t mean we don’t outlaw murder. There is no law that cannot be twisted by depraved individuals to apply to any situation whatsoever. But if you have a functioning court system, you prevent such abuses.

Or look at a crime like conspiracy to commit murder. That crime is mostly about speech - you’re punishing someone for using their speech to plot the death of someone else. And yet we don’t see governments vastly abusing prohibitions on conspiracy to commit murder to silence their political opposition. We don’t see that because those laws were well written.

One obvious solution is to make conspiracy to commit genocide a harshly enforced crime. Are you running a political movement that intends to seize power and kill a bunch of innocent people? That’s just conspiracy to commit murder on a massive scale. You’re just choosing to use the state as your murder weapon.

Remember, we literally hanged people at Nuremberg for crimes against humanity and incitement to genocide - mostly for the things they said. We hanged people for their words, when those words were just parts of a plot to commit mass murder.

Conspiracy to commit murder is not protected speech, and neither should be conspiracy to commit genocide.

We’ve had super-abundant tolerance for intolerance. We literally hanged people like Charlie Kirk at Nuremberg on charges of crimes against humanity and incitement to genocide.

We hanged people at Nuremberg for incitement to genocide. Genocide is a crime with a very specific meaning. Yes, bad-faith actors can abuse a law prohibiting incitement to genocide, but the same can be done with any law.

Advocating for genocide is not free speech - it’s attempted mass murder. Two people talking with each other and conspiring to kill someone else isn’t protected speech - it’s just conspiracy to commit murder. And if plotting to kill one person isn’t protected, plotting to kill thousands or millions shouldn’t be protected either. These people are plotting to commit genocide, and their intention is to use the power of the state as their murder weapon.

We need to prosecute attempted genocide and conspiracy to commit genocide as vigorously as we would any plot to kill any individual. But we have this weird blind spot where if someone plans to commit murder on a large scale using the state as the murder weapon, that somehow we don’t recognize it as the same fundamental crime. Murder is murder. Killing is killing. Conspiracy to commit murder is conspiracy to commit murder. Whether the weapon is your own bare hands or the apparatus of a nation state. Advocating for genocide is nothing less than conspiracy to commit genocide.

Fucking clankers.

I just use the browser, even on mobile. >:D

Meanwhile, I just wish signal let you set server-specific nicknames.

Sorry, best I can do is the sci fi dystopian option where we grow entire cows in vats, but we make it humane by just growing them without brains.

Yeah, this is one of those areas that capitalism really screws us over.

The natural and most obvious use for these lab-grown and imitation meats are for filler meats. Think a ground beef replacement. Something that would be added to a casserole, a burrito, or any other dish where meat is present, but not the primary focus of a dish.

But it costs money to develop lab-grown meats. And to pay that investment back, for-profit companies have to target the luxury market first. It’s like how Tesla started with building an expensive sports car. Then they used the profits from that to build a cheaper next generation car, and so on. That’s what the lab grown meat companies have had to do. The ideal market for products like these would be things like chicken nuggets or the meat inside hot pockets. But those are also the cheapest form of meat sold, and they need to target the upper end of the market to have any hope of profitability.