Cuz it sucks and it’s worth all of the zero dollars it costs. 😆👍

I work in that myself, which allows me to be a step or two removed from being a complete piece of shit, but still pretty close to the shitscape.

Also, in that field, being an asshole without empathy gets you further up the org chart than being smart or good at your job, so my point stands.

What’s the “right career”?

There it is. “Use AI” is the new “learn to code”.

I now hate income tax because it’s just giving a handout to billionaires (and military contractors, but I repeat myself).

A big ol pile of shit.

Yup and add intelligence to the list as well. Smart means nothing if you can’t back it up with being an amoral pile of shit that takes advantage of people every opportunity you get.

Are you saying human languages are a derivative of bird language or something? If so, I’d like to see the proof of that.

That’s fine but regular art isn’t 2/3 theft either.

I do buy the 1/3 shite though. It may even be a bit higher than that. Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc.

It’s a matter of taste for sure but I’d say AI art is >90% shite, 100% theft.

I don’t like the glossy looking hyperreal shit it puts out at all.

I enjoy lots of great art! But do you think I watch every film? Listen to every band? There’s tons of shit out there!

You said regular art is 1/3 shite and 2/3 theft. Maybe math isn’t your strong suit but that’s 3/3 which is 100% so by claiming regular art is the same you’re saying all art is either theft or shite.

It uh, it isn’t.

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Fucking thing sounds like a sovcit (including the emphasis on the capitalization of words).

That’s right. If you cannot win the argument the next best thing is to call for civility.

I’m summarizing your shitty argument and viewpoint. I never said it was a direct quote.

Though, at one point even that tired ass quote and your whole way of thinking was put into words by someone for the first time.

Yeah dude at one point there was no languages and no songs. You can get into “what counts as a language” but at one point there was none. Same with songs.

Language specifically was pretty unlikely to be an individual effort, but at one point people grunting at each other became something else entirely.

Your whole “there is nothing new under the sun” way of thinking is just an artifact of the era you were born in.

What language was the first language based upon?

What music influenced the first song performed?

What art influenced the first cave painter?

Not what I said, my point is that humans are organic probabilistic thinking machine and LLMs are just an imitation of that. And your assertion that an LLM is never ever gonna be similar to how the brain works is based on what evidence, again?

Yeah, you reduced humans to probabilistic thinking machines with no evidence at all.

I didn’t assert that LLMs would definitely never reach AGI but I do think they aren’t a path to AGI. Why do I think that? Because they’ve spent untold billions of dollars and put everything they had into them and they’re still not anywhere close to AGI. Basic research is showing that if anything the models are getting worse.

Bro, don’t hallucinate an argument I never made, please. I’m only discussing about how the human mind works, yet here you are arguing about human limbs and what it means to be human?

Where’d you get the idea that you know how the human mind works? You a fucking neurological expert because you misinterpreted some scientific paper?

I agree there isn’t much to be gained by continuing this exchange. Bye!

Through what fucking program? Magic?

All I’ve said was that humans thoughts are also probabilistic based on the little we know of them.

Much of the universe can be modeled as probabilities. So what? I can model a lot of things as different things. That does not mean that the model is the thing itself. Scientists are still doing what scientists do: being skeptical and making and testing hypotheses. It was difficult to prove definitively that smoking causes cancer yet you’re willing to hop to “human thought is just an advanced chatbot” on scant evidence.

This is just more of you projecting your insecurity onto me and accusing me of doing things you fear.

No, it’s again a case of you buying the bullshit arguments of tech bros. Even if we had a machine capable of replicating human thought, humans are more than walking brain stems.

You want proof of that? Take a look at yourself. Are you a floating brain stem or being with limbs?

At even the most reductive and tech bro-ish, healthy humans are self-fueling, self-healing, autonomous, communicating, feeling, seeing, laughing, dancing, creative organic robots with GI built-in.

Even if a person one day creates a robot with all or most of these capabilities and worthy of considering having rights, we still won’t be the organic version of that robot. We’ll still be human.

I think you’re beyond having to touch grass. You need to take a fucking humanities course.

Is it tech bro of me to not assume immediately that humans are so much more special than simply organic thinking machines?

Yep, that’s a bingo!

Humans are absolutely more special than organic thinking machines. I’ll go a step further and say all living creatures are more special than that.

There’s a much more interesting discussion to be had than “humans are basically chatbot” but it’s this line of thinking that I find irritating.

If humans are simply thought processes or our productive output then once you have a machine capable of thinking similarly (btw chatbots aren’t that and likely never will be) then you can feel free to dispose of humanity. It’s a nice precursor to damning humanity to die so that you can have your robot army take over the world.

Is that why you love saying touch grass so much? Because it’s your own personal style and not because you think it’s a popular thing to say?

In this discussion, it’s a personal style thing combined with a desire to irritate you and your fellow “people are chatbots” dorks and based upon the downvotes I’d say it’s working.

And that irritation you feel is a step on the path to enlightenment if only you’d keep going down the path. I know why I’m irritated with your arguments: they’re reductive, degrading, and dehumanizing. Do you know why you’re so irritated with mine? Could it maybe be because it causes you to doubt your techbro mission statement bullshit a little?