Interesting. I think most users would assume they’re talking to other adults and might change their language or behavior if they thought they were conversing with children

Age is anything but arbitrary from a law perspective. With these laws there is no expectation of privacy in regards to age. I’d argue there never was, it was just poorly enforced and got normalized

I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification

Yep. Probably a billion dollar idea if you can execute it properly. These laws are spurring competition

I think most peoples’ facial data is already for sale and breachable/leakable

Correct, I don’t really want 12-year-olds commenting here either. Do you? Genuine question

Though Lemmy instances are largely public. You don’t need an account to view their contents. So that’s pretty different from Discord

For the record, I do think the laws will apply to Lemmy instances

That’s a false dichotomy. Parents can and should protect children. Social media sites can and should protect children. It’s in the social interest. Parents don’t have control over every device a child has access to. Firewalls at schools and libraries are often lackluster

I have kids too. I’m not singling out Discord here, just pointing out they’re trying to follow the law.

Young kids and social media are inherently a bad mix. Primarily because it promotes antisocial behaviors and they cannot effectively comprehend and consent to the privacy polices and TOS. Hence why adults need to be involved in account creation.

The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who’ve been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It’s also US-based

They’re open source, so for technical issues you can open an issue on GitHub

If you have a custom domain Tuta is way better than Proton. It’s unlimited addresses.

Yep. I also think having a dedicated screen is much better than opening a phone app all the time, especially when it comes to babysitting and traveling.

Good reminder of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YW7x9U5TQ

Yes, I use it and generally like it. Their app is a little buggy, but they have email support and accept bug reports on GitHub. This is helpful for finding out what other users are seeing. It’s a small dev team with frequent releases

I’m not sure what you mean. The “overhead” is putting your different logins into a password manager, no?

That’s correct. You get better export tools with Google compared to Proton. Because of this alone I’d recommend not storing your important data with Proton

I understand your point and I support & contribute to FOSS. But I was specifically addressing the claim that Telegram reads all messages and sells them to the highest bidder. They don’t currently, unless someone can point me towards a credible source

I’ve used Telegram for years and never seen an ad. Their Privacy Policy says ads aren’t based on messages

Unlike other services, we don’t use your data for ad targeting or other commercial purposes. Telegram only stores the information it needs to function as a secure and feature-rich cloud service.

Telegram offers a tool for advertisers to promote their messages in public one-to-many channels, but these sponsored messages are based solely on the topic of the public channels in which they are shown. No user data is mined or analyzed to display ads or sponsored messages.

I have tracked them down: https://joesdaily.com/food-drink/hellofresh-spice-blends-how-to-make-them/

The trick is to use a search engine. In my case, I used DuckDuckGo

On the Orion forums their staff consistently bullies people around

What does a “release” mean in this context?

If you don’t want to appear like a bot when applying I recommend doing this yourself like everyone else. The ATS will flag it