I really like dragon launcher but it’s not traditional at all it uses a system of rings to quickly launch things and does feature profiles and folders

https://f-droid.org/packages/org.elnix.dragonlauncher

It’s not if it’s done right, android is problematic because it’s not a community project, it’s just a code dump.

case in point, the linux kernel itself

I recommend dragon launcher or lawnchair

dragon is now my favorite, the ring design is awesome and the dev is active, but lawnchair is the most like nova but open source.

I don’t think socialist thought has anything to do with this.

it’s an invalid data point. If you have some other issues post about it but that isn’t good data, garbage in garbage out

Overthinking implies an issue with the thought process, can you point to one?

I think you’re underthinking it.

whether you like it or not that’s simply false, when the issue has been long resolved it stops being of any real value and actually becomes misleading. If any issues I report are not current I no longer say them unless I’m trying to make a point about the competency of the distro, however, that point wouldn’t be valid in your case because immutables were in their infancy until relatively recently.

if I reported that I had issues with adobe flash player on fedora in 2009 it would not be useful info to anyone now, similarly.

furthermore that’s not even considering if it was caused by hardware or cosmic rays, if the issue cannot be reproduced it’s likely misinformation.

so no, it simply is not the case that all reports are valid or contain useful information for making a decision, in your case it’s quite the opposite.

It was actually pretty inconvenient because I found the syntax for “anonymous rules” basically undocumented.

There are countless documented issues that are fundamental to non-immutable systems, your example is both not a fundamental issue with a design and has been fixed. It’s not good info.

Right but if the issues are fixed then immutable is the right choice for beginners.

maybe it was a double edged sword years ago.

That’s just not true I did it with this method on a clients computer three days ago.

Right click image > set as wallpaper > both

xx-zones in particular is a huge deal for many very important usecases

dbus_annotations is huge for me, but ext-tray fair enough.

global shortcuts is also huge, plenty of people consider that mandatory.

xx-zones allows windows to place themselves

dbus_annotations allows menu items (like file, edit, etc) to be searchable by other apps

ext-tray allows tray icons to display things other than text in their menus (like sliders or whatever)

Fine but still a downgrade to reliability

You could have used rpm-ostree for that. All of that, actually.

Xx-zones dbus_annotation and ext-tray get merged and implemented into kde and global shortcuts stop sucking and I’ll call it.

A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite or aurora if you don’t like gaming is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.