If we can all understand that, say, criticizing the policies of the state of Israel is not automatically anti-semitism, and indeed that that is often a bad-faith dismissal of legitimate criticism, we can make the same distinction here.

It took a lot of learning, for sure, a lot of frustrated googling, but worth it. I wouldn’t choose Ubuntu Studio as my first experience. Ironically my first experience was with Ubuntu, and it was awesome, but that’s back when Ubuntu was good which was like 2008-2012 (my experience evidently is contrary to some here, but it was kind of the breakthrough of strong Linux desktops imo).

Awesome! I want more and better apps in this space. I personally don’t trust myself not to lose my phone, so I want to manually sync files to some trusted place, or preferably, have webdav/nextcloud for syncing the way some notes apps have it. It’s your project, so do what suits you, but that’s something that would push it to the top for me.

We’re already seeing it now, but any and all storehouses of previously uncontroversial institutional knowledge will just get labeled “liberal” over time.

It happened to Wikipedia, it happened even to the weather, it’s happening to nutrition, and given enough time it will start happening to things like astronomy, air traffic control, earthquake detection, scuba diving, etc.

Smartest comment in the thread imo. There can be good reasons for seeking a variety of ideologically leaned sources, but even the question of who is biased is a politicized question, and it won’t necessarily have anything to do with truth.

And as you noted, they change over time. E.g. “iraq war was bad” used to be considered an extreme far left position, though now it’s closer to a bipartisan consensus. “We need to avoid regulatory uncertainty”, “we need to curb judicial activism”, “deficits are bad” used to be right wing positions.

isn’t that still, by defnition, a breach of the company’s data?

In a sense, kind of. But it doesn’t demonstrate penetration of infrastructure built and maintained by Google. So there’s perhaps a judgment issue, but not a demonstration of their own security capabilities being compromised.

Feyd did a pretty good job of outlining the AUR disclaimers in a different comment so I won’t do that here. It’s true that Arch won’t stop you from shooting yourself in the foot, but again it’s nuts to claim that routine compiling is the usual case for all rolling distros and belies your claim that you’re familiar with usual case experience. There’s absolutely no routine experience where you’re regularly compiling.

I’ve used debian and apt-get most of my life, I’ve used arch on a pinetab 2 for about 6 months, regularly playing with pacman and yay and someone who’s never met me is saying I’m a fanboy for being familiar with linux package management. 🤷‍♂️

Gimp is a gigabyte larger as a flatpak

one of my least favorite things about arch and other rolling distros is that yay/pacman will try and recompile shit like electron/chromium from source every few days unless you give it very specific instructions not to

My understanding is that constantly triggering compiling like that shouldn’t be happening in any typical arch + pacman situation. But it can happen in AUR. If it does, I think it’s a special case where you should be squinting and figuring out what’s going on and stopping the behavior; it’s by no means philosophically endorsed as the usual case scenario for packages on arch.

There’s certainly stuff about Arch that’s Different™ but nothing about the package manager process is especially different from, say, apt-get or rpm in most cases.

iit: nerds unable to comprehend that building a piece of software from source in not something every person can do

huh? Using package managers almost never involves compiling. It’s there as a capability, but the point is to distribute pre-compiled packages and skip that step in the vast majority of cases.

Also pretty much everywhere you’re using flatpaks (or snaps or…), you are doing it on top of a Linux system that’s still getting its core system updates via traditional dependency management. And flatpaks, despite trying not to, make assumptions about your kernel, your glibc version, architecture, ability to access parts of your filesystem or your devices, that can break things, and doesn’t bother to track it.

And the closer you get you tracking that stuff (like Snap tries to), you hilariously just get back to where you started, with traditional dependency management that already exists and has existed for decades.

It destroys the beautiful and carefully cultivated ecosystem of distributed packages that has been the bedrock of Linux for decades. They’re bloated, often not quite as sandboxed as claimed, have created packaging chaos, and assume availability of system services that may not be there.

Not even remotely true, this is a myth. Most of what they spend is on development, operations, and legal. They publish their 990 online which gives the breakdown. IIRC the foundation gets like 2%.

Slightly more than 1% of their annual revenue.

Also Ubuntu for me. It had a golden age, I want to say 2006-2015ish.

I had a substitute teacher who saw the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth ads against John Kerry and repeated it to the class like it was 100% fact.

Yeah, you start seeing the full multiverse. It’s crazy.

But ultimately I have come to the conclusion that twice is too often to be a coincidence

Wait, who said anything about twice? I think you’re dead on about the second term, I think it was intentional. Just the first term was the dog that caught the car.

I think that credits them with a little bit too much conscious attention. I think they were surprised to even win and kind of bumbled through and were able to retrospect with the look back at that experience and think about what to do once they had a second chance. So I did set up a second term, but I don’t regard that as having been part of a singular intentional plan. Like another commenter in this thread said the dog caught the car in the first term.

Love Rhythmbox! I used it way way back when I first installed Ubuntu (back when it was good) and it was part of a special nostalgic feeling of having been ushered into this new linux world, and I think it lets you rate your songs 1-5 stars (if you want) and I had a lot of fun doing that.