It depends on your preferences of course. Notmuch offers a way fast indexer you can’t get with traditional gui applications, but by itself it’s not pretty useful, however the integration with other tools makes it really powerful, with afew you get your personal tagging when messages arrive (filters), with alot you just get the email frontend. If you like the terminal experience, then you’d know you need something extra for smtp (writing emails) and there you have for example msmtp. It’s a matter of choice. I mentioned notmuch since the traditional approach to the terminal is plain neomutt, but there are alternatives. isync (mbsync) actually interacts well with neomutt but it also does it with notmuch, and neomutt can be used as a frontend for notmuch as well. A matter of choices.

The thing with solutions like thunderbird is that you have to adhere to their design decisions. For example I don’t like their librnp implementation, and I had to create alpm hooks on artix to keep updating such library with sequoia-octopus-librnp, not because I like rust (I don’t dislike it either), but because at least I can keep just one keyring, and thunderbird when not having a master password (the default) keeps its keyring unencrypted, and I pretty much see no reason not to use gnupg. So I decided I better kept using gnupg’s keyring and stuff. Integrating different tools designed for specific purposes you have more freedom of choice. At any rate that’s how unix was conceived, and you can choose to do it that way if you want.

Cool, it never came back to arch/artix, however I see it on aur. I actually don’t use gui for mpd, I use ncmpcpp, but good to know it has quite good gui frontend. ario is good as well, particularly if not much into Qt apps.

https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play

I don’t know if your complain about serxng is something you’ll eventually get with 4get. Whatever works at any time. See google and other search engines had been playing awful to searxng. At some point google will notice 4get instances and will take on them as well. On searx[ng] on the side one can see what has been suspended, denied, timed out, etc.

Time wise, 4get allows for only 1 engine at a time. searx[ng] allows for several no wonders it can take time. BTW the user can choose any of the engines per search they want. That of course can take more time. The point is that right now all search engines have taken it on searx[ng], and options are welcome. Self hosting is working better maybe because the search engines don’t feel threaten by it.

The good thing is to have alternatives.

BTW, I thought google found the way to finally get rid of invidio, but it seems there are a couple of instances still working. Good !

DeGoogle doesn’t make sense if keeping google services and google play (this provides services any ways). For example grapheneOS as best as it is for security is not a DeGoogle experience. calyxOS would have been an option but it’s currently out of maintenance. LineageOS with f-droid basic, apkupdater (apkpure mirror) if needing proprietary stuff and maybe aurora store if apkpure doesn’t find something or you distrust it (it’ll be connecting to google play), and for them, if needing google push notifications (most of them do) and unavoidable services then microG.

Some FLOSS apps requiring push notifications allow to use unified push btw, like jami and davdroid (davx5), molly (signal client, though I no longer use signal), so no need for google push notifications, and for email imap has supported it’s own push notifications mechanism for way long (fairemail, thunderbird, etc). It’s on proprietary apps which mostly that’s not the case… Installing from official f-droid I believe gets rid of proprietary google stuff, including dependencies on google services library…

cantata is no longer maintained AFAIK, but as mentioned there are other clients such as ario, which on arch/artix it is build on gtk3, not gtk2

How about isync + notmuch + afew + alot + msmtp? gpg decryption not directly supported but using alot’s pipeto it can be used to decrypt messages. As using notmuch as indexer it’s flow is pretty similar/compatible to/with gmail.

agreed, I though I ammended my original post about it.

Not specific to grapheneos, and also battery friendly on LOS is localsend, and on gnu+linux I use instead localsend-go since it offers a CLI (what I use) and a rudimentary TUI which is missing some functionality but good enough (I prefer using it as CLI). But localsend also includes a windows app BTW. On gnu+linux some prefer kdeconnect, but I find it more battery intensive than localsend on the phone, and the extra functionality is not what I expected, like I originally guessed I could write sms from a gnu+linux box, or read past one, and that’s not what sms control means.

Don’t these alternatives work on grapheneos for some reason?

Flatpak’s use of bubblewrap (it comes from flatpak but then it became its own project) is not a good example, see:

https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux.html#flatpak

But in general this is true. I talked out of memory, but firejail given its suid way is considered insecure (possible privilege escalation), that’s right

apparmor comes with several profiles, and if in your distro it doesn’t include one for librewolf, you can use the firefox one. And if there’s no available one and you would be interested in combine it with firejail then most probably firejail will come with with a profile for firefox or librewolf and usually with support for apparmor. Regardless of the distros, the arch wiki can guide you with apparmor and firejail. I recommend becoming familiar with both. Another option if there’s no profile on your distro is to look into another distro’s profile. ubuntu used include some software with apparmor out of the box so perhaps it’s a good source of profiles…

Also in this same community there’s an old post precisely about what you’re asking for, though it’s a bit dated, you may want to scroll for some time until getting to it.

Edit:

Firejail is insecure, my bad. Better to use bubblewrap (I didn’t know about bubblejail). The thing is that firejail offers profiles combined with apparmor which might have solved the lack of apparmor profiles. For my personal purposes I hope to take a look at bubblejail to have an easier way to do sandboxing. You can see the arch wiki bubblewrap examples to notice how bubblewrap doesn’t help with apparmor profiles though. According to the arch wiki for bubblejail or the GH page for bubblejail profiles are used and can easily be created, however I have no idea of the interaction with apparmor, and if as with firejail such profiles include apparmor stuff, but intuitively I guess it doesn’t.

Going back to apparmor, which is MAC enforcement, if no profiles available on your distro for librewolf neither firefox, then looking at other distros is OK, and also one can create profiles as well as one can also modify existent or available ones. See for example the arch wiki for apparmor.

If you want to keep using google playstore and services, you no longer will be able to use f-droid, whether google or any aosp rom. grapheneOS claims it won’t be affected given their sandboxed google play and services. Though I’m not sure if eventually google would come up with a counter measure or it won’t ever care. They want to enforce that if anyone uses their proprietary stuff the apps interacting with it must be from register developers, which automatically exclude any libre/free app storage on which developers don’t want to register to google. GrepheneOS being the exception.

If you use microG with any custom rom, I guess that might work through fake registrations, but can’t be sure. But any custom rom without google play and services is supposed to be ok with f-droid. The thing is that google knows most if not all users need one app that depends on their stuff, perhaps bank apps, payment apps, and so on…

Hmm, youtube-dl? I believe it’s no longer the one to use, it’s yt-dlp, and mpv has support yt-dlp for quite some time, but it could be any player as long as it supports yt-dlp. What I’ve noticed is that nothing gets as fast to fix these YT issues than yt-dlp. It’s working fine for me on Artix for quite some time. And unless wanting ton use a browser, that’s what freetube has been documenting every time receiving related bugs. See for example:

https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube/issues/8083#issuecomment-3326565693

Papers or Zathura (+ required plugin)

Just so you know, if you like freetube, you can configure the external player to mpv, which underneath uses yt-dlp when streaming, and use the button to load the external player. Of course one can also launch smplayer, which underneath is using mpv, which underneath…

But the thing is content creators don’t move out of YT cause they’re there to monetize in the first place. So this thing seems never ending no matter alternatives like peertube exist.

Besides outertune there’s harmonymusic as well

None protect your IP if not using a non self hosted frontend like invidio or piped, cause if self hosted then you’re providing your IP any ways. So now a days actually private is kind of hard. But these applications for sure help a lot.

2025.09.26 can still do it without deno. Besides, when the change happens, node and bun (never heard about bun before) will be supported as well, not just deno, but they will require extra arguments passed to yt-dlp. If using yt-dlp directly, and already having node or bun installed, no need for deno then.

apkupdater installing from apkpure?

I’m wondering about LOS re-locking on particular devices. DivestOS used to allow that, not sure if only on pixels, but if divestOS which was based on LOS could, I don’t see how that code can not be ported over upstream LOS. Have anyone seen an effort similar to divestOS in this regard?

if someone is up to the challenge to take lemoa over, a gtk app, the original author seems to be open for that.