As others have said, lemmy.zip might be a better instance for you than .ml.
In general, I’d say people are nicer here, more arguments in good faith, which I like.
Politics range from socialism to anarchism. Any thread on any topic is a good place to discuss Linux. No one cares about how many upvotes people have. You may need to actively explore communities and join them if you want. It’s a bit like free software, if you think something is lacking, participate with more content and build up the community. Free software is great, what’s your favorite distro?

It’s a quote from the movie Blade Runner. It’s meant to produce involuntary emotional responses in humans, to tell them apart from robots.

Gael Duval (/e/os) wrote as a response:
"I’d like to state *very clearly* that Murena and e Foundation are not related in case to this ridiculous and pseudo-drama.

What we seek is to totally ignore these guys, and have nothing to do with them.

And again, and again, despite what they are repeating, we are NOT competitors, as we are not in the hardened-security market spaces."

What makes you go back to stock?

Currently, only the Pixel hardware has all the hardware security features GrapheneOS wants. They could support other devices, but then they would have to compromise on security, which is something they don’t want to do. A while ago it was reported that they were looking to partner up with another manufacturer, but I haven’t heard anything about that since.

Iirc, the list is of operating systems that the FSF recommends. You could have a system running 100% free software, but the FSF won’t recommend it if the distro makes it easy to theoretically install proprietary code. It’s fine to run such a system, but the FSF won’t recommend it.

I respect how OpenBSD seems to work. Like “we do this for ourselves, but if you want to use our software, go ahead, we don’t mind (or care)”.

I nominated GrapheneOS and also Proton themselves to finally have resources to work on their Linux clients.

The decentralization is the new and interesting aspect. If that doesn’t matter to you then lemmy might not offer what you’re looking for.

My banking apps just work™ without any work or fiddling. (Sweden) You can have a separate space for apps that need google play and all that and it has no access to your private data.

I have a swedish keyboard because I am swedish, we have three extra letters compared to the english alphabet. Which means that the standard swedish keyboard layout had to tuck away some symbols into very awkward places using AltGr to type. Programming and using Vim is a bad experience with a swedish keyboard imho.

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Could it be that desktop usage in general has gone down? That people use their phones and tablets for browsing and similar tasks. Then Linux would have a bigger share, but maybe not because there are more users.

Isn’t sailfish proprietary?

Wow, Spain is way ahead of my country (Sweden), we have much to learn. Unfortunately our politicians are not the best at the moment, but hopefully in the future.

It seems like backend companies are ready for this, but today, what are the options for individual end users looking to escape google etc? Proton has a package with mail, storage, etc, murena for phones, nextcloud, opencloud, suite numerique, is the industry converging on any standards here like .odt for documents but for other standards and protocols?

The good thing about open source is that it’s open, so hopefully it will benefit everyone. Of course, hosting always cost money, but the tech itself isn’t locking you in.

As a percentage of desktop users or percentage of any users (including people who use their phones mainly)?

This is water.

I used to switch a lot, and created scripts that install distroboxes with all the stuff needed for various purposes like java programming etc. Now on a fresh install I can get back to having all third party libraries and IDE set up with extensions, git configured etc in a couple of minutes. Debian distroboxes for things where versions don’t matter, tumbleweed for latest versions when needed. I looked forward to distrohopping all the time. But now I’m just on debian as the “host” system, no need to switch.