My guess would be someone trying to make stone tools by banging rocks together, a spark fell into dry grass, etc. But, you know, just a guess.

It makes perfect sense.

Do you know which packages and what defaults? I’ve tried to find the differences but I can’t really find what is different, except for wallpaper etc.

What is in LMDE that isn’t in plain Debian out of the box beyond branding?

It did make sense at one point. They implemented a music player with a daemon part and a client part, so from that you had the mpd server and mpc client. Someone wrote an ncurses frontend for the client, naturally called ncmpc. Iirc that person abandoned it and someone else took over with a new iteration. ncmpcpp. But it really is a bad name.

For a long time I used the music player ncmpcpp. The name makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and how it relates to other things.

One time I saw an http 418, but I think someone just configured it wrong on purpose.

Yes, sorry I fumbled the wording, I meant to say it makes me wonder what the other chinese factory workers make and under which conditions they work compared to the chinese workers that make fairphones. Maybe it’s all propaganda and fairphone uses slave labour, but that would surprise me. Another thing I thought about is that tech is just more expensive in europe in general. It’s common that we pay 20% more for the same phone or laptop in europe compared to the US.

Ethically sourced, fair wages to workers, etc. Makes you wonder what a factory worker in china makes to allow for cheaper phones.

I did the same thing, but with ubuntu. Now, you and I can troubleshoot issues and have patience. But someone who is sort of reluctant to begin with, it’s a hard sell if there are hurdles.

I’m actually thinking about switching from Debian to Mint. I’m thinking that if Mint is the recommended distro for people new to Linux, they will need a big community to answer questions in forums.

I genuinely believe that more empathy is needed in both directions for people to come out of their trenches. Problem is, it"s hard to feel empathy for those who have no empathy in return. It’s a locked position reinforcing itself with every bad interaction. To break out of this we would have to listen and show that we care, while not getting the same things back. It feels bad. Unfair. Again, this goes both ways.

Well it takes like a thousand people to make Debian, so they’d need to do a lot of work.

Mm, depends, do you use a regular 5v charger or those fast charging chargers that take like 30 mins to charge the whole battery while making it quite warm?

If you only saved Mint, then Mint devs would have to do all the Debian work too?

how’s the charging on the CMF? Does it work to use usb-c pd?

You can get them preinstalled with /e/os too. https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-5/

Yes, well, such is language. What word better describes the combination of devices where you carry out typical desktop computer tasks in a desktop manner? I’m open for using a different word.

For some people, maybe behind the reason they seek these procedures is a wish that isn’t actually fulfilled by the procedures. I’ve never heard of someone getting addicted to transplanting kidneys or fixing cataracts.

Some people include laptops in “desktop” since it’s the same paradigm of the interface, especially if you hook up an external mouse and have a regular screen and keyboard. Laptops are still widely used. Some people use the term workstation. If 90% of people used linux on laptops for browsing, writing, programming, editing media, spread sheets, etc, I’d say that was the year of Linux on the Desktop, even if they don’t have a Compaq with a CRT screen sitting on their desk.