Steve Dice

What’s stopping them from throwing a blanket over the shelf and just posting the same notice on the blanket? That’s what I mean by toothless law.

Ah, brilliant argument. Shall I take this as your agreement that $750 is not console pricing?

It’s not a console in the same way the Steam Deck isn’t a Switch competitor. I get what you’re saying but putting “console price” at over $750 would just mesh it with PC pricing and then the distinction would be meaningless.

You’re quoting someone else.

Yes, it is riskier. That’s not my point, though. It is that telling people “just don’t do that” isn’t helpful.

Umm, actually. All proprietary software is unethical and introduces huge risks to your PC. People should stop playing any game that has such closed closed source.

That PC at microcenter is much faster than the Steam Machine.

Here’s some benchmarks for the 7600M, which has the exact same specs as the GPU in the Steam Machine:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-7600M-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.679303.0.html

Here’s some benchmarks for a 9060XT which is the GPU on your link:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-9060-XT-16GB-Benchmarks-and-Specs.1029097.0.html

And here’s some benchmarks for a desktop 7600 which is another card people are comparing the Steam Machine to:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-7600-Benchmarks-and-Specs.806213.0.html

In case anyone doesn’t wanna wade through the terrible way notebookcheck presents information, I’ll post the numbers for CyberPunk High Preset at 1080P to give you an idea of the performance difference. Nothing particular about why I chose that game, it’s just the first I found that was on all 3 links:

• RX7600M: 62.3 FPS
• RX7600: 90.1 FPS
• RX9060XT: 127.2 FPS

If we set the 7600M as 100%, then the 7600 and 9060XT are 144.6% and 204.1% respectively.

I think people believe the Steam Machine will be way faster and that’s why they’re coming up with these outrageous prices.

Only one of those 3 consoles is comparable to the Steam Machine. You can’t grab a product from a different segment in the market and lump it in with the rest just because they’re the same kind of product. If that were the case, I could just look at a ThinkCentre and say “see? $200 is PC pricing” but thatd be insane — nobody looking to buy a ThinkCentre would ever consider a Steam Machine, and nobody looking to buy the disc or Pro versions of the PS5 will consider a Steam Machine either. So yes, your failure to consider market segments means that you are wrong.

It’s easier to bitch about the woes of a thing I already don’t like than to have to make any effort in changing my habits, mmkay?

No, buddy. English is also not my first language and you write like shit. You’re also an asshole about it, have a victim complex and are a hypocrite. You’re just an all around shitty human being.

Are you legitimately insane?

That’s probably one of those toothless laws that can be easily bypassed on a technicality. Like, just say the shelf is for “storage” and not “display”.

Sure. Not for RAM, though. It ain’t water, friend.

What market are you shopping at?!

No, but there’s some unhinged people arguing it’s gonna be $800 or even $1k.

You’re the one that brought up Valve selling at a loss because you think anything under $800 would be selling at a loss. I’m telling you it is not.

Seems like they changed it two months ago. That still puts a $650 price tag 30% above the PS5 MSRP so no, $650 isn’t console pricing.

And if my grandma had wheels she’d be a bicycle.

You seem to think the Steam Machine will be much faster than the specs imply.

An educated guess. The specs of the “semi-custom” components perfectly match with existing products. However, if I were to put my tinfoil hat on, I’d point out that the 7600M has been out for 2 years and you still cannot find a laptop with one. Almost as if someone snatched up all of the supply.

Edit: Forgot to mention what those existing products are. Ryzen 5 7400F and RX7600M. (The M is very important. Don’t forget the M).