To be fair, there’s definitely astroturf and propaganda accounts/bots on here. They don’t set those propaganda budgets up for nothing.

But accusing every single criticism of US foreign policy of being a foreign bot just makes me think that account is a domestic bot. Or a deeply propagandized individual.

LoL. I must be in love him, huh?

Anyway, I’d really love if one person would answer the question on whether it’s also ok for China and Russia to keep expanding their claims into the sea, if we’re gonna say it’s ok for the US.

Dude figured out how the ‘Hot’ sorting algorithm works, and thinks he’s uncovered a conspiracy. LoL.

What do you think your post history says about you? What impression do you think people get from continually pushing US propaganda, telling other people not to engage with people or read sources that counter your narrative, and attacking everyone who disagrees with ad hominems?

Better yet, what do you think your constant comments on strategies for running bots is making people think? You really believe people are stupid enough to think, ‘gee, surely if he was an astroturfer he wouldn’t be telling people exactly how to astroturf.’ Hanging a lantern on it isn’t the brilliant strategy you seem to believe it to be.

You think you’re playing chess, while you keep playing checkers.

You can only DARVO and spell out your own strategy over and over so many times before people realize you’re projecting.

Maybe not every person critical of US foreign policy is a bot.

Exactly. We have all of these leaked cables and emails from a decade ago spelling out that they planned all of this, and people still refuse to even consider maybe the US aren’t the good guys here.

I mean, we straight up destroyed a critical pipeline and caused one of the worst environmental disasters in history right off their coast, and coaxed them into participating in full-on genocide, but the EU remains on the US’ leash. Absolute madness.

You need to re-read it. That was never the claim. The US annexed more area off the continental shelf. At the same time, the US has Europe burning through ammunition and military reserves.

One did not cause the other, but they are both part of increasing US expansionism.

Notice how my ‘Russian bot’ is in single quotes, and yours is in double?

https://ponder.cat/comment/1445491

Wanna continue denying? Or switch up the story again?

I appreciate you posting another comment thread where I post sources criticizing US policy while you post ad homonyms attacking me. Chef’s kiss.

So the mod’s criticizing comments with sources as bonkers, and praising an astroturfer for writing a sock puppet guide.

Wow.

And you apply that standard across the board, correct? You support China and Russia expanding their claims farther out to sea, and no western exceptionalism?

Yes, Phil. We know. You already spelled out your strategy for making sock puppet accounts believable, in this very same comment section. A real grand master in that chess game!

Do you believe your tepid criticism cancels out your imperialism defense here? Or your reflexive accusation of ‘Russian bot’ every time someone criticizes US foreign policy, or raises the alarm about the US currently escalating to world war by attacking on multiple fronts across the globe as we speak?

You know what doesn’t help your credibility? Your continual jump between ‘what are you talking about? I’m not aware of any such thing’ to ‘I’m actually thoroughly informed, and here’s why what they did is justified’ the moment someone provides a source. You can’t play dumb and pretend you have a better understanding than anyone of the facts. Pick a lane.

It’s not evident to me.

I’m open to be swayed. Why is this expansion of US claims acceptable and not an annexation?

And why is this expansion considered forgettable, but we label every expansion done by China in the exact same way considered an aggression?

I could do that, but I don’t wanna.

Sure you could.

What have I said that’s untrue? What did I claim that’s not supported in my sources?

I am not “pro-Russia.” I am simply not anti-Russia enough to promote the lies & narratives to justify US aggression, and you accuse everything critical of US foreign policy of being pro-Russia.

I’m a particular thorn in your side because I come with receipts, and it makes your attempts to get it censored fall flat. Though I’m sure you get away with it anyway in the Politics community mods.

How many of those people are Philip’s alts? He wrote a straight up guide on running bot accounts in these comments, and this isn’t even the first time he’s done this.

This is ridiculous. Glad I could find some unscrubbed articles. Not sure why Phil doesn’t have to do the same for his unsourced claims and accusations.

How is that a “bonkers extrapolation”? The US expanded the regions they claim in the arctic under Biden. That’s a fact.

Do you apply the same apologist take to China expanding its claims farther out from the coasts?

Folks, this is called DARVO.

Yes, that is what my sources show. Disprove it with your own.

But it seems like some people think it started with Trump, when a lot of this started during the Obama admin.

We can’t stop this madness, if we only attack it from one angle.